Phil Holloway

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Oh, Megan, great to be with you. Look, I think Ashley needs to go ahead and legally change her name to Erin Brockovich because if it weren't for her just unending and undying zealous advocacy for her client, we wouldn't be here right now talking about this. Look, this opinion is absolutely spectacular. I urge everybody to read it. I tweeted out a lot of it, but there's a lot there. And the...

Oh, Megan, great to be with you. Look, I think Ashley needs to go ahead and legally change her name to Erin Brockovich because if it weren't for her just unending and undying zealous advocacy for her client, we wouldn't be here right now talking about this. Look, this opinion is absolutely spectacular. I urge everybody to read it. I tweeted out a lot of it, but there's a lot there. And the...

Oh, Megan, great to be with you. Look, I think Ashley needs to go ahead and legally change her name to Erin Brockovich because if it weren't for her just unending and undying zealous advocacy for her client, we wouldn't be here right now talking about this. Look, this opinion is absolutely spectacular. I urge everybody to read it. I tweeted out a lot of it, but there's a lot there. And the...

The odor of mendacity, that phrase, okay, which is, of course, the catchphrase now everybody associates with this case, that features prominently in this rule. It even went into a footnote and defined- Oh, okay.

The odor of mendacity, that phrase, okay, which is, of course, the catchphrase now everybody associates with this case, that features prominently in this rule. It even went into a footnote and defined- Oh, okay.

The odor of mendacity, that phrase, okay, which is, of course, the catchphrase now everybody associates with this case, that features prominently in this rule. It even went into a footnote and defined- Oh, okay.

So yeah, the judge said, look, her testimony, that of Wade had the, quote, odor of mendacity, which means, as the Court of Appeals defined in a footnote, they said, look, odor of mendacity. Mendacity means dishonesty and falseness, okay? And so this is the type of appearance of conflict of interest. Now, they didn't find an actual conflict, but they said this is the kind of

So yeah, the judge said, look, her testimony, that of Wade had the, quote, odor of mendacity, which means, as the Court of Appeals defined in a footnote, they said, look, odor of mendacity. Mendacity means dishonesty and falseness, okay? And so this is the type of appearance of conflict of interest. Now, they didn't find an actual conflict, but they said this is the kind of

So yeah, the judge said, look, her testimony, that of Wade had the, quote, odor of mendacity, which means, as the Court of Appeals defined in a footnote, they said, look, odor of mendacity. Mendacity means dishonesty and falseness, okay? And so this is the type of appearance of conflict of interest. Now, they didn't find an actual conflict, but they said this is the kind of

an appearance of impropriety, appearance of a conflict of interest that does warrant her removal from the case. And there is no other remedy that will suffice. The trial judge said, look, we're going to cure this by just making her get rid of Mr. Wade. The Court of Appeals, I think, correctly said otherwise. That's all fine and good, but that doesn't cure what she did in the past.

an appearance of impropriety, appearance of a conflict of interest that does warrant her removal from the case. And there is no other remedy that will suffice. The trial judge said, look, we're going to cure this by just making her get rid of Mr. Wade. The Court of Appeals, I think, correctly said otherwise. That's all fine and good, but that doesn't cure what she did in the past.

an appearance of impropriety, appearance of a conflict of interest that does warrant her removal from the case. And there is no other remedy that will suffice. The trial judge said, look, we're going to cure this by just making her get rid of Mr. Wade. The Court of Appeals, I think, correctly said otherwise. That's all fine and good, but that doesn't cure what she did in the past.

It doesn't cure the conflict of interest or the really egregious appearance of a conflict of interest. And so it was all that stuff. It was the Nathan Wade stuff. It was the mendacity, the smell, if you will, of her testimony. And then, of course, it was also all these out-of-court statements that she made where she goes into the well of a church and she slimes the defendant's

It doesn't cure the conflict of interest or the really egregious appearance of a conflict of interest. And so it was all that stuff. It was the Nathan Wade stuff. It was the mendacity, the smell, if you will, of her testimony. And then, of course, it was also all these out-of-court statements that she made where she goes into the well of a church and she slimes the defendant's

It doesn't cure the conflict of interest or the really egregious appearance of a conflict of interest. And so it was all that stuff. It was the Nathan Wade stuff. It was the mendacity, the smell, if you will, of her testimony. And then, of course, it was also all these out-of-court statements that she made where she goes into the well of a church and she slimes the defendant's

in front of, by the way, a pool of potential jurors. Okay, you can't try cases on the courthouse steps, let alone in the well of a church filled with potential jurors on the case. And so it was all of these things put together that I think made this the right opinion. And it's for, just like Ashley said, the Georgia Supreme Court, I predict is not going to want to touch this.

in front of, by the way, a pool of potential jurors. Okay, you can't try cases on the courthouse steps, let alone in the well of a church filled with potential jurors on the case. And so it was all of these things put together that I think made this the right opinion. And it's for, just like Ashley said, the Georgia Supreme Court, I predict is not going to want to touch this.