Phil Holloway

There's a few facts that he'll say, well, I said in good conscience, it doesn't mean that they're actually true.

He doesn't have to be truthful.

Again, she has to prove actual malice that he knew it was false or a reckless disregard of the truth.

Very high standard, as you have learned, Megan.

So I don't think this lawsuit goes anywhere against this guy.

It doesn't mean that I'm in favor of what he says, and it doesn't mean that it's factual.

I have no idea if what he's saying is truthful.

But I love our First Amendment, and it gives us wide latitude to say a lot of things you don't always have to be right.

Okay, it plays well for Melania in the court of public opinion because people like you give the impression, I think, or people are getting the impression that the daily, what is it, beast mail?

Beast.

Which one?

Yeah, beast.

Somehow then pulled it because what he's saying might be false.

They could be pulling it for many other reasons.

They don't want the hassle.

They don't need the lawsuit.

It's going to be costly.

It doesn't mean, in fact, what they didn't say was we're pulling it because he said

used our media outlet to spew lies.

They didn't say that.