Phil Robertson

And he's a very numerically driven man.

He can put everything he processes out.

So that would have been a very... I read that.

And they made the point, Zach, one of the guys that was being interviewed made the point that you've made several times about the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution being, in essence, because one had God and one didn't.

And you see the way they played out very differently today.

even in what now would be considered the short term.

But yeah, you're right.

It's an interesting idea, and it's a biblical one, that you get freedom from surrender.

And it doesn't seem logical.

from an earthly standpoint, but that's exactly what happens.

I mean, when you surrender to God, you find freedom, and the Bible tells us that, but that's exactly what happened here.

When you see that surrendering of wills to God, you saw this idea of true freedom, and not just freedom to live, but freedom from tyranny, and being forced to fight wars they didn't even believe in, which we'll get into on the next podcast.

So

Yeah, it's really interesting, the concept and the idea and the waves of it, because as soon as you get that success, Zach, you were talking about, then a lot of times you have to be humbled and reminded again, it's not you, it's God.

So then you got to go through the whole process over again, because you get a generation that forgets God, which again is biblical history, right?

That's what happened to the people of God over and over and over again.

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I knew we'd get there.

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