Philip Boucher Hayes

Solomon, on this particular occasion, or one of three Solomons, is Government Minister Dara O'Brien.

I asked him in November of last year, was he sitting on this land use review or would he publish it?

If people want to know where all the red-listed birds in Ireland have gone, they've come to Michael O'Malley's farm.

Work around them means he no longer uses herbicides, fungicides or pesticides in the tillage fields that are in the EIP.

They mark the nests as well so that Michael won't drive over them.

They're deferring to you when I write to them.

And they trap the magpies and crows to stop them predating the curlew and lapwing eggs.

That was in November.

Yesterday, his department told me that it was being held onto in government for further consideration.

And when you say look after, they're all dispatched here, are they?

Mary Burke is a professor of geography in Trinity College.

Or do you take them away?

She has told this programme before that adapting to the kind of flooding that Michael Miley's farm suffered is going to require installing flood solutions on about 5% of the land in every river catchment.

Exactly, and the problem is,

All of this might be a lot of effort for one agency of government to go to if another agency is going to grant permission for a wind turbine in the next field.

Good morning to you, Professor Burke.

Do we need a national land use plan that integrates flood adaptation right into its core or can we, should we just leave this to the county councils?

There is no clear national land use policy for these situations once again, just conflicting objectives.

Such a policy would require a government to be brave and take a side, conserve nature or take climate action.

Breeding pair.