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And Mary, if we don't do this, if we don't integrate this into a national land use plan, what happens?
Is that the problem here, that as soon as you put, you prioritise one use of land over another, you're going to be putting some people's noses out of joint?
Professor Mary Burke, thank you very much.
Ronan Power is Chief Executive of Solar Ireland, the representative body for the solar industry.
At points in the course of the last week, over a third of Ireland's electricity was generated by solar panels.
Obviously, though, you have a lot more that you want to do.
Do we need a national land use plan for you to achieve that?
You do indeed have a huge cultural burden to overcome there.
But the bigger point that you're making
is equally knotty and it is that you have all of these targets that have been set, each of them laudable and desirable in their own right, but they're all set without reference to each other.
What happens if we don't do that?
Everybody's just working in a little silo and nobody is trying to do joined-up government.
And how different do you find the approach of each county council as you lodge your planning applications now?
Pat, I left out one critical thing from all of those land uses, and that is those livestock farmers who are now going to want to expand their land holding in order to be able to spread their nitrates a little bit more evenly.
What's going to happen to the price of land in the course of the next few years?
Ronan Parr, Chief Executive, Solar Ireland.
Thank you very much for that.
Una Duggan is Head of Policy at Birdwatch Ireland.