Philip Wegman

Right now, if you talk to folks in the anti-abortion movement, they're pretty disappointed because they thought that they would be doing much better right now.

They have Republican allies in Congress.

Senator Lindsey Graham is promising to hold a vote on a national abortion ban.

That would say, after 15 weeks, no abortion on demand, except in cases of rape, incest.

The Supreme Court, of course, turned over Roe v. Wade several years ago.

And the man that they helped return to the White House, Donald Trump, who brags about being the most pro-life president ever.

Well, I'm pro-life.

I am pro-life.

He's back in power.

And yet last month, you had the president of Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, a woman named Marjorie Dannenfelser, come out and say that the stakes were existential for their movement.

Basically, what, you know, it all boils down to in their mind is that there have been more abortions post-Roe year after year.

And currently, the Trump administration has embraced a sort of states' rights patchwork framework for regulation.

And whatever they decide must be the law of the land, in this case, the law of the state.

And so they were triumphant just a few years ago, but now they're very much on the back foot.

There certainly was an expectation that one's Roe was reversed.

there were going to be all sorts of other fights, that they were gonna fight this out in all 50 different states.

At the same time, though, these anti-abortion groups, they're of the opinion that the Dobbs decision leaves room for federal action.

And what they're frustrated by right now is that Trump, in their mind, has really held them at arm's length.

Not only does he not want a federal abortion ban

Many states will be different.