Philip

And you'd be just surprised how many people will dig holes in somebody's yard and just leave them, which if they have animals like horses and livestock, they could step in it and get hurt.

That didn't feel sincere.

You know what I love?

I love that you just said, so.

I spent over 20 years in a fire station.

There is little that these ears have not heard.

You gotta cover your soul.

So you live by two rules.

Non-denominational.

You'd be welcome.

12 years, I think it is, 13 years, something like that.

I was bivocational for a while.

I worked in the fire service and I worked at a church simultaneously and did that for a period of time.

And then as the church grew, it was a church plant, so it started from scratch.

And as things grew, then I was full-time here as the preacher.

I hope so.

I will tell you this.

I grew up and my dad did not go to church very often.

And one of his biggest things was he was like, he'd meet preachers and he would go, that preacher doesn't know anything about real life.

He doesn't know anything about me.