Philip

And I also, I like having a little bit like less items to again, get hung up, get in the way.

I don't feel the need to carry like,

things I won't use in the match.

It just feels like a waste.

And I'm not, maybe it's me gaming it or whatever, but it just feels like a waste of like efficiency.

So I guess that's, that's probably really what we're looking at here from my perspective is I like being efficient.

I may not be overly efficient with my movement, but I'm getting better.

But in gear wise, it's good to be efficient.

That's my personal opinion.

So I'm going to wrap up in that, and then I'm going to throw it back at you and then kind of ask, like, when we first started looking at doing the Wolverine 5K, which was the first match that required a lot of this gear, I remember the first time you showed up, and I was like, dude, you are now wider than you are tall with all the equipment that you had.

Well, I mean, yes.

You also had, like...

Like you're a little more built than most people.

Yeah, that is correct.

We were rec and then the, but the, uh,

the actual like orienteering part of the course or the day, um, does require you to have 25 pounds, even if you're wreck.

And that's easy to do when you have a backpack, less easy to do when you're trying to do it spread out via a plate carrier, unless you're carrying like air 500 plates, which neither of us were.

Again, like we talked about at the top of the episode, it's not necessarily wrong, right?

I mean, if you can work within that, that those parameters that you've created one way or another, you know, I,

Again, there are benefits or trade-offs, and we'll kind of get into those as we dig into everything.