Philip

Like you're a little more built than most people.

Yeah, that is correct.

We were rec and then the, but the, uh,

the actual like orienteering part of the course or the day, um, does require you to have 25 pounds, even if you're wreck.

And that's easy to do when you have a backpack, less easy to do when you're trying to do it spread out via a plate carrier, unless you're carrying like air 500 plates, which neither of us were.

Again, like we talked about at the top of the episode, it's not necessarily wrong, right?

I mean, if you can work within that, that those parameters that you've created one way or another, you know, I,

Again, there are benefits or trade-offs, and we'll kind of get into those as we dig into everything.

Oh, 100%.

Yeah, I think a lot of it, too, as we kind of start digging into some of our setups here, it goes back to everybody has a different body type and they have a different level of comfort that they they enjoy.

So we kind of dive into plate carrier setups and we won't.

No, and I'm actually going to make steps backwards.

Well, not really backwards, but I'm going to make steps closer to what I had when I first started out.

Yeah, I had a Slickster from Feral Concepts.

I remember.

Those are really minimal.

They don't have a ton of padding in them.

They're basically like a set of front and back bags where you put your armor into, and then you can put –

uh, like a front placard on it.

And then there's the newer models have Molly weave that you can use in the back.