Philipp Schröder-Ringe

Yeah, we're talking about like hundreds of thousands of euros. It would have been like an earthquake and it would have been dramatic. And I think there would have been some clubs that had to close the doors if they had to pay back all that money. So it was existential, absolutely.

I remember it was at the top of the building, very impressive old building. And we were sitting there with older people gray-haired people that didn't look like they would go clubbing. And we sat there together with the different club owners. I couldn't say who was there, but they also tried to dress up a bit and to behave seriously in that situation.

I remember it was at the top of the building, very impressive old building. And we were sitting there with older people gray-haired people that didn't look like they would go clubbing. And we sat there together with the different club owners. I couldn't say who was there, but they also tried to dress up a bit and to behave seriously in that situation.

I remember it was at the top of the building, very impressive old building. And we were sitting there with older people gray-haired people that didn't look like they would go clubbing. And we sat there together with the different club owners. I couldn't say who was there, but they also tried to dress up a bit and to behave seriously in that situation.

And that was a very funny conversation because you have to agree on two things for the reduced taxes. First, it has to be a concert, so you need an artist. So we had discussions about the DJs being artists. How do they use instruments? What are they doing there? And the tax authorities was of the opinion that, no, this is not art.

And that was a very funny conversation because you have to agree on two things for the reduced taxes. First, it has to be a concert, so you need an artist. So we had discussions about the DJs being artists. How do they use instruments? What are they doing there? And the tax authorities was of the opinion that, no, this is not art.

And that was a very funny conversation because you have to agree on two things for the reduced taxes. First, it has to be a concert, so you need an artist. So we had discussions about the DJs being artists. How do they use instruments? What are they doing there? And the tax authorities was of the opinion that, no, this is not art.

I mean, you put on a CD or LP and you just let it play, it's no art.

I mean, you put on a CD or LP and you just let it play, it's no art.

I mean, you put on a CD or LP and you just let it play, it's no art.

And fiscal authorities, they said, oh, no, we checked it, and you have bars, and you drink very much, and you have low entrance price. You make much more with drinks. So this holds against a concert. And what also holds against is that people don't know who's playing, who's the DJ. And the DJ is not like on a concert on a big stage. He's maybe in the corner.

And fiscal authorities, they said, oh, no, we checked it, and you have bars, and you drink very much, and you have low entrance price. You make much more with drinks. So this holds against a concert. And what also holds against is that people don't know who's playing, who's the DJ. And the DJ is not like on a concert on a big stage. He's maybe in the corner.

And fiscal authorities, they said, oh, no, we checked it, and you have bars, and you drink very much, and you have low entrance price. You make much more with drinks. So this holds against a concert. And what also holds against is that people don't know who's playing, who's the DJ. And the DJ is not like on a concert on a big stage. He's maybe in the corner.

There's no light and people move around and they don't really care who's playing there. And we went into all this discussion and said, OK, come on, look, we have lower entrance fees because we want to provide opportunity for many people to enjoy club life. But at the same time, the clubs pay a lot for the DJs. I mean, they have residents, they have international DJs, they are well-known.

There's no light and people move around and they don't really care who's playing there. And we went into all this discussion and said, OK, come on, look, we have lower entrance fees because we want to provide opportunity for many people to enjoy club life. But at the same time, the clubs pay a lot for the DJs. I mean, they have residents, they have international DJs, they are well-known.

There's no light and people move around and they don't really care who's playing there. And we went into all this discussion and said, OK, come on, look, we have lower entrance fees because we want to provide opportunity for many people to enjoy club life. But at the same time, the clubs pay a lot for the DJs. I mean, they have residents, they have international DJs, they are well-known.

Of course people come because they want to see these DJs. They celebrate the DJ. If he's doing a good job, then they're applauding, they are cheering.

Of course people come because they want to see these DJs. They celebrate the DJ. If he's doing a good job, then they're applauding, they are cheering.

Of course people come because they want to see these DJs. They celebrate the DJ. If he's doing a good job, then they're applauding, they are cheering.

Yeah, it is like a very old school, maybe... prussian way of looking at concerts like everybody has to sit in a row and be quiet and do nothing else but listen and i had a good feeling after this conversation that we have the better arguments obviously yeah but the fiscal authorities and these people didn't agree and instead they went to court