Phillip Goff

You know, you had followers of Jung who were into spiritual collective unconscious and archetypes and things. And then the followers of Freud who said, that's all superstitious nonsense. We want this to be real science. Similarly, Some panpsychists, like maybe David Chalmers, insofar as he's inclined to panpsychism, or Luke Roloffs, are very atheist, secular reductionists. Angela Mendelovici.

Whereas others, like Hedda Hasselmerk or Itai Shani... Those are just three great names you rattled off. All panpsychists have great names. Do you see a certain consonance... with this supposed conflict. A lot of people think there's a conflict between a scientific story of reality and a spiritual story of reality. I think for a panpsychist, that conflict just dissolves. Oh, one thing.

Whereas others, like Hedda Hasselmerk or Itai Shani... Those are just three great names you rattled off. All panpsychists have great names. Do you see a certain consonance... with this supposed conflict. A lot of people think there's a conflict between a scientific story of reality and a spiritual story of reality. I think for a panpsychist, that conflict just dissolves. Oh, one thing.

Whereas others, like Hedda Hasselmerk or Itai Shani... Those are just three great names you rattled off. All panpsychists have great names. Do you see a certain consonance... with this supposed conflict. A lot of people think there's a conflict between a scientific story of reality and a spiritual story of reality. I think for a panpsychist, that conflict just dissolves. Oh, one thing.

It's all one thing. And look, I mean, let me give you an example. Suppose I have a mystical experience and it seems to me in this overwhelming mystical experience that there's some higher form of consciousness underlying all things. And then I wake up and I think, oh my gosh, this profound insight into reality. But then I remember my physics lessons and I think, hold on,

It's all one thing. And look, I mean, let me give you an example. Suppose I have a mystical experience and it seems to me in this overwhelming mystical experience that there's some higher form of consciousness underlying all things. And then I wake up and I think, oh my gosh, this profound insight into reality. But then I remember my physics lessons and I think, hold on,

It's all one thing. And look, I mean, let me give you an example. Suppose I have a mystical experience and it seems to me in this overwhelming mystical experience that there's some higher form of consciousness underlying all things. And then I wake up and I think, oh my gosh, this profound insight into reality. But then I remember my physics lessons and I think, hold on,

The story you get from cosmology, that doesn't seem to be talking about this consciousness and that's our best understanding of the universe. So there's a conflict. Well, it depends how you're interpreting the scientific story, right? If you're a panpsychist, that wonderful mathematical story we get from physics and cosmology is grounded in underlying forms of consciousness. And this

The story you get from cosmology, that doesn't seem to be talking about this consciousness and that's our best understanding of the universe. So there's a conflict. Well, it depends how you're interpreting the scientific story, right? If you're a panpsychist, that wonderful mathematical story we get from physics and cosmology is grounded in underlying forms of consciousness. And this

The story you get from cosmology, that doesn't seem to be talking about this consciousness and that's our best understanding of the universe. So there's a conflict. Well, it depends how you're interpreting the scientific story, right? If you're a panpsychist, that wonderful mathematical story we get from physics and cosmology is grounded in underlying forms of consciousness. And this

higher form of consciousness you seem to have been acquainted with in your mystical experience might have been part of that more fundamental consciousness story. We shouldn't be too quick here. That doesn't mean mysticism is true or there is some higher form of consciousness or mystical experiences are telling us about reality, but it's less of a leap. It removes the conflict, right?

higher form of consciousness you seem to have been acquainted with in your mystical experience might have been part of that more fundamental consciousness story. We shouldn't be too quick here. That doesn't mean mysticism is true or there is some higher form of consciousness or mystical experiences are telling us about reality, but it's less of a leap. It removes the conflict, right?

higher form of consciousness you seem to have been acquainted with in your mystical experience might have been part of that more fundamental consciousness story. We shouldn't be too quick here. That doesn't mean mysticism is true or there is some higher form of consciousness or mystical experiences are telling us about reality, but it's less of a leap. It removes the conflict, right?

There are still questions to debate, but there isn't this fundamental conflict that we have on a more conventional scientific picture, I think.

There are still questions to debate, but there isn't this fundamental conflict that we have on a more conventional scientific picture, I think.

There are still questions to debate, but there isn't this fundamental conflict that we have on a more conventional scientific picture, I think.

I love it. I love it. I've had a few conversations, public conversations with the novelist Philip Pullman. One thing that really stuck with me in my conversations with Philip Pullman was him saying that panpsychism is very Copernican. Copernicus taught us that our planet isn't in the centre of the universe, right? It's just one planet going around one of a trillion stars, you know.

I love it. I love it. I've had a few conversations, public conversations with the novelist Philip Pullman. One thing that really stuck with me in my conversations with Philip Pullman was him saying that panpsychism is very Copernican. Copernicus taught us that our planet isn't in the centre of the universe, right? It's just one planet going around one of a trillion stars, you know.

I love it. I love it. I've had a few conversations, public conversations with the novelist Philip Pullman. One thing that really stuck with me in my conversations with Philip Pullman was him saying that panpsychism is very Copernican. Copernicus taught us that our planet isn't in the centre of the universe, right? It's just one planet going around one of a trillion stars, you know.

Similarly, I think for panpsychists, In an analogous sense, our consciousness isn't the blueprint, isn't the model of all consciousness, right? We're not saying if a rock is conscious, it's sort of feeling existential angst or, you know, wondering if it's Tuesday. For a panpsychist, our consciousness is very weird, cosmically speaking, right?