Phillip Goff

So this really limits our capacity to deal with it experimentally. And what we can do if we're dealing with another human being is we can ask them, right? What are you experiencing? And if I do that while I'm scanning your brain... I can start to correlate which kinds of conscious experience go with which kinds of brain state in the human case, although it's already a bit of a mess even there.

So this really limits our capacity to deal with it experimentally. And what we can do if we're dealing with another human being is we can ask them, right? What are you experiencing? And if I do that while I'm scanning your brain... I can start to correlate which kinds of conscious experience go with which kinds of brain state in the human case, although it's already a bit of a mess even there.

And then as we try and extrapolate to other mammals, to lizards, to other kinds of inanimate objects, it just gets harder and harder to do. But I guess at least our common sense understanding is that As we get to simpler forms of life, we find simpler and simpler forms of conscious experience.

And then as we try and extrapolate to other mammals, to lizards, to other kinds of inanimate objects, it just gets harder and harder to do. But I guess at least our common sense understanding is that As we get to simpler forms of life, we find simpler and simpler forms of conscious experience.

And then as we try and extrapolate to other mammals, to lizards, to other kinds of inanimate objects, it just gets harder and harder to do. But I guess at least our common sense understanding is that As we get to simpler forms of life, we find simpler and simpler forms of conscious experience.

You know, what it's like to be a snail, if there is something that it's like to be a snail, is much simpler than what it's like to be a sheep or a human being. For the panpsychist, this keeps going down to the fundamental building blocks of reality with...

You know, what it's like to be a snail, if there is something that it's like to be a snail, is much simpler than what it's like to be a sheep or a human being. For the panpsychist, this keeps going down to the fundamental building blocks of reality with...

You know, what it's like to be a snail, if there is something that it's like to be a snail, is much simpler than what it's like to be a sheep or a human being. For the panpsychist, this keeps going down to the fundamental building blocks of reality with...

Maybe fundamental particles like electrons and quarks having incredibly simple forms of conscious experience to reflect their incredibly simple nature. So that sounds a bit weird, but I think it does manage to make sense of a lot of the mysteries we're struggling with at the present moment.

Maybe fundamental particles like electrons and quarks having incredibly simple forms of conscious experience to reflect their incredibly simple nature. So that sounds a bit weird, but I think it does manage to make sense of a lot of the mysteries we're struggling with at the present moment.

Maybe fundamental particles like electrons and quarks having incredibly simple forms of conscious experience to reflect their incredibly simple nature. So that sounds a bit weird, but I think it does manage to make sense of a lot of the mysteries we're struggling with at the present moment.

Yeah, that really resonates with me, Andre, how you put in that. I suppose you've got to start with... How do we know about reality? That's a big question. And I think in a way we know about reality in two different ways, at least two different ways anyway. We know about consciousness just by being conscious. As you say, it's the one thing we're directly in contact with.

Yeah, that really resonates with me, Andre, how you put in that. I suppose you've got to start with... How do we know about reality? That's a big question. And I think in a way we know about reality in two different ways, at least two different ways anyway. We know about consciousness just by being conscious. As you say, it's the one thing we're directly in contact with.

Yeah, that really resonates with me, Andre, how you put in that. I suppose you've got to start with... How do we know about reality? That's a big question. And I think in a way we know about reality in two different ways, at least two different ways anyway. We know about consciousness just by being conscious. As you say, it's the one thing we're directly in contact with.

If you're in pain, you're just directly aware of your pain. But then we know about the physical world. somewhat indirectly by using our conscious experience. And then as we do that a bit better, we get science. And then the fundamental challenge is how do these two things we know about in very different ways fit together? Is the physical world fundamental?

If you're in pain, you're just directly aware of your pain. But then we know about the physical world. somewhat indirectly by using our conscious experience. And then as we do that a bit better, we get science. And then the fundamental challenge is how do these two things we know about in very different ways fit together? Is the physical world fundamental?

If you're in pain, you're just directly aware of your pain. But then we know about the physical world. somewhat indirectly by using our conscious experience. And then as we do that a bit better, we get science. And then the fundamental challenge is how do these two things we know about in very different ways fit together? Is the physical world fundamental?

And maybe consciousness emerges from physical processes in the brain. Or is it the other way around, as the panpsychist thinks? Is mind or consciousness fundamental and physical reality emerges from some more fundamental story about mind or consciousness? This is one of the big questions. And unfortunately, there is no experiment you can do to decide which of those is correct.

And maybe consciousness emerges from physical processes in the brain. Or is it the other way around, as the panpsychist thinks? Is mind or consciousness fundamental and physical reality emerges from some more fundamental story about mind or consciousness? This is one of the big questions. And unfortunately, there is no experiment you can do to decide which of those is correct.

And maybe consciousness emerges from physical processes in the brain. Or is it the other way around, as the panpsychist thinks? Is mind or consciousness fundamental and physical reality emerges from some more fundamental story about mind or consciousness? This is one of the big questions. And unfortunately, there is no experiment you can do to decide which of those is correct.