Phoebe Judge

And it's very – it's an incredibly confusing order. They're like, well, wait a second, but you don't eat meat, but it's – but beef broth with tofu and vegetables, no beef. That's my order at the Vietnamese restaurant. What about you, Lauren?

And it's very – it's an incredibly confusing order. They're like, well, wait a second, but you don't eat meat, but it's – but beef broth with tofu and vegetables, no beef. That's my order at the Vietnamese restaurant. What about you, Lauren?

God, I've been pulled on a couple of those with you. You've been a good sport. How about the pizza? I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get Neapolitan pizza. And I understand the simplicity of it. I've been to some of the best in the country with you, and I'm always like, is this a little bland?

God, I've been pulled on a couple of those with you. You've been a good sport. How about the pizza? I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get Neapolitan pizza. And I understand the simplicity of it. I've been to some of the best in the country with you, and I'm always like, is this a little bland?

Music is a very controversial topic around here because we all have our own opinions. So I'll tell you how it works. Here's how an episode of Criminal is made. A producer pitches a story. I pitch stories too. We have a pitch meeting once a week. where we all pitch and we all kind of decide whether this is interesting or not.

Music is a very controversial topic around here because we all have our own opinions. So I'll tell you how it works. Here's how an episode of Criminal is made. A producer pitches a story. I pitch stories too. We have a pitch meeting once a week. where we all pitch and we all kind of decide whether this is interesting or not.

And if we think the idea is interesting, a producer will go and kind of do a pre-interview with the guest, see if the guest is working out. Then comes back and talks to me and Lauren and says, you know, I think they are interesting. And we say, okay, let's book them. And then I will work with the producer to kind of research the story, get prepared. Then we do an interview.

And if we think the idea is interesting, a producer will go and kind of do a pre-interview with the guest, see if the guest is working out. Then comes back and talks to me and Lauren and says, you know, I think they are interesting. And we say, okay, let's book them. And then I will work with the producer to kind of research the story, get prepared. Then we do an interview.

The producer is there with me. We are talking during the interview. I'm doing the interview. And then afterwards, the producer will take that raw interview that I've done and kind of make a rough draft of a script. Then that script will go to Lauren and the producer. And they'll do a read-through, a first read-through. And then after that, I'll come in for a second edit.

The producer is there with me. We are talking during the interview. I'm doing the interview. And then afterwards, the producer will take that raw interview that I've done and kind of make a rough draft of a script. Then that script will go to Lauren and the producer. And they'll do a read-through, a first read-through. And then after that, I'll come in for a second edit.

And we'll read through and we'll fix the copy and we'll change things around. And these are long edits. Yesterday we were in for two and a half hours.

And we'll read through and we'll fix the copy and we'll change things around. And these are long edits. Yesterday we were in for two and a half hours.

So we kind of at every stage are trying to bring people in who don't know anything. Lauren, I know things because I've done the research and I've done the interview. But then when Lauren comes in, she doesn't know anything. And then when I come back in, I know something. Lauren knows something. But the new producer doesn't.

So we kind of at every stage are trying to bring people in who don't know anything. Lauren, I know things because I've done the research and I've done the interview. But then when Lauren comes in, she doesn't know anything. And then when I come back in, I know something. Lauren knows something. But the new producer doesn't.

So after we go through that second edit, I will then take the script and I'll track it. which is what we call when I do the narration for episodes. And then the producer will take those clips of tape and my narration and put together a layup. We call it a rough mix. And they'll choose music when they're doing that process. They then send that mix back to me and Lauren, and we listen to it.

So after we go through that second edit, I will then take the script and I'll track it. which is what we call when I do the narration for episodes. And then the producer will take those clips of tape and my narration and put together a layup. We call it a rough mix. And they'll choose music when they're doing that process. They then send that mix back to me and Lauren, and we listen to it.

And another new producer. Another new producer. We listen to it incredibly closely, and we give notes. The notes are down to, you know, can you put in half a beat more? Take out this breath. The music should start 0.5 seconds sooner. I mean, they're very, very detailed notes.

And another new producer. Another new producer. We listen to it incredibly closely, and we give notes. The notes are down to, you know, can you put in half a beat more? Take out this breath. The music should start 0.5 seconds sooner. I mean, they're very, very detailed notes.

Yeah. And we skip the whole fact checking process, which is another thing that happens, a big thing that happens before I get to the tracking. But, you know, so that for music wise, I have a lot of notes. I have constant notes about the music. I have very strong opinions about the music. I'm constantly asking people to swap out songs, move things sooner, fade out slower.

Yeah. And we skip the whole fact checking process, which is another thing that happens, a big thing that happens before I get to the tracking. But, you know, so that for music wise, I have a lot of notes. I have constant notes about the music. I have very strong opinions about the music. I'm constantly asking people to swap out songs, move things sooner, fade out slower.