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Phoebe Judge

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
4765 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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Sometimes they took the kids.

They stayed at their friend Vinny's house.

Vinny had worked for Gil at the office supply company.

Karen and Vinny stayed up late talking with each other.

Karen and Vinny both filed for divorces.

When Karen told Gil she didn't tell him about Vinny...

But then Vinny's wife found out about Karen.

Gil moved out of their apartment.

But one day, Karen came home and realized he had gone through her things.

He had cut up photos from their wedding, and he had burned some of Karen's old family photographs.

She says she found a bullet on top of the stove.

Karen decided she had to move out of their apartment.

Gil asked to meet her for lunch.

She thought he wanted to talk about their daughters.

But when she got there, he threatened to take away the kids if Karen stayed with Vinny.

Later, Karen found rotten meat in her front yard.

Another time, she found her tires slashed.

There were no anti-stalking laws in California at the time.