Pia Sinha

No, I think it's the short answer.

No, I think it's the short answer.

Shall I expand? Please do. But you've seen a year later, we're back to that same point. So it's a very, very temporary measure. It buys you a bit of breathing space. But ultimately, as a long term fix, you have to look at how you curb the demand coming into prison.

Shall I expand? Please do. But you've seen a year later, we're back to that same point. So it's a very, very temporary measure. It buys you a bit of breathing space. But ultimately, as a long term fix, you have to look at how you curb the demand coming into prison.

And that is the only way that you can make this problem go away for longer than six months or a year, because we'll be here again next year if we only do this.

And that is the only way that you can make this problem go away for longer than six months or a year, because we'll be here again next year if we only do this.

I think potentially, yeah, I think you were talking about reintegration and planning for release. One of the key functions of prisons is that as you're technically or in theory, as you're coming towards the end of your release date, you should have people who work in the prisons and outside the prison helping you with your employment needs, your housing needs, your treatment needs, etc.

I think potentially, yeah, I think you were talking about reintegration and planning for release. One of the key functions of prisons is that as you're technically or in theory, as you're coming towards the end of your release date, you should have people who work in the prisons and outside the prison helping you with your employment needs, your housing needs, your treatment needs, etc.

informing victims, you know, all of that planning needs to take place. If you move that forward, then that planning time gets squashed. So the efficiency of all of that drops. And one of the things that came out in the reports is that victims are not being informed of the fact that their perpetrators are getting released early. And that can feel very traumatic for them.

informing victims, you know, all of that planning needs to take place. If you move that forward, then that planning time gets squashed. So the efficiency of all of that drops. And one of the things that came out in the reports is that victims are not being informed of the fact that their perpetrators are getting released early. And that can feel very traumatic for them.

I think that people know that eventually people need to get out. But when you know that's happening and you've had time to prepare for it, you're mentally more equipped for it. And that's the bit that's not happening. So that's one problem in terms of how it impacts victims. But the other is that... Probation, generally, when you come out, you come out on license conditions.

I think that people know that eventually people need to get out. But when you know that's happening and you've had time to prepare for it, you're mentally more equipped for it. And that's the bit that's not happening. So that's one problem in terms of how it impacts victims. But the other is that... Probation, generally, when you come out, you come out on license conditions.

And one of the things that recalls you back to prisons is not necessarily that you've committed another offense, but that you've breached your license conditions. And those could be something as straightforward as you've not maintained your tenancy or you've made yourself homeless. because you've got kicked out of your flat or you're not living in suitable accommodation.

And one of the things that recalls you back to prisons is not necessarily that you've committed another offense, but that you've breached your license conditions. And those could be something as straightforward as you've not maintained your tenancy or you've made yourself homeless. because you've got kicked out of your flat or you're not living in suitable accommodation.

You're punished for that. Yeah. And especially when there's no accommodation that's suitable anyway, you know, you might be sofa surfing. And for some people, that's the only option that they might have. And so you so the kind of fallacy in all of this is, is that your recall rate then increases.

You're punished for that. Yeah. And especially when there's no accommodation that's suitable anyway, you know, you might be sofa surfing. And for some people, that's the only option that they might have. And so you so the kind of fallacy in all of this is, is that your recall rate then increases.

So if you're sending people out early, but then they're coming back in before their original release date anyway, you're just making it a kind of a really unworkable strategy to release pressure in prisons. And we had a number of prisoners getting interviewed yesterday as they were coming out of prisons.

So if you're sending people out early, but then they're coming back in before their original release date anyway, you're just making it a kind of a really unworkable strategy to release pressure in prisons. And we had a number of prisoners getting interviewed yesterday as they were coming out of prisons.

And so many of them were just resigned to the fact that they're going to come back in a few weeks time. So it just feels like a very short term approach to dealing with the problem.

And so many of them were just resigned to the fact that they're going to come back in a few weeks time. So it just feels like a very short term approach to dealing with the problem.