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And those are just the formal responses. It doesn't include the CDC's regular other work on things like worker health or preventing accidents or chronic diseases or dealing with the health effects of environmental toxins, for instance.
There were two programs in particular that got a lot of attention for being wiped out. That was the Laboratory Leadership Service, which is this partner fellowship to the Epidemic Intelligence Service, which is well known. It's the EIS program. And then also the Public Health Associate Program, which puts recent graduates in state and local health departments together.
There were two programs in particular that got a lot of attention for being wiped out. That was the Laboratory Leadership Service, which is this partner fellowship to the Epidemic Intelligence Service, which is well known. It's the EIS program. And then also the Public Health Associate Program, which puts recent graduates in state and local health departments together.
There were two programs in particular that got a lot of attention for being wiped out. That was the Laboratory Leadership Service, which is this partner fellowship to the Epidemic Intelligence Service, which is well known. It's the EIS program. And then also the Public Health Associate Program, which puts recent graduates in state and local health departments together.
Those left some gaps in the public health system that our colleague Will Stone and I have been reporting on. Now, the members of these two fellowships in particular have been asked to return. They got these emails last week saying, Your termination has been rescinded. You can come back and, quote, we apologize for any disruption that this may have caused.
Those left some gaps in the public health system that our colleague Will Stone and I have been reporting on. Now, the members of these two fellowships in particular have been asked to return. They got these emails last week saying, Your termination has been rescinded. You can come back and, quote, we apologize for any disruption that this may have caused.
Those left some gaps in the public health system that our colleague Will Stone and I have been reporting on. Now, the members of these two fellowships in particular have been asked to return. They got these emails last week saying, Your termination has been rescinded. You can come back and, quote, we apologize for any disruption that this may have caused.
And these fellowships make up a sizable number of the 180 or so people that have been asked to return. But still, you know, these rescindments offered no protections against future reductions in force, which are expected to be coming to the agency.
And these fellowships make up a sizable number of the 180 or so people that have been asked to return. But still, you know, these rescindments offered no protections against future reductions in force, which are expected to be coming to the agency.
And these fellowships make up a sizable number of the 180 or so people that have been asked to return. But still, you know, these rescindments offered no protections against future reductions in force, which are expected to be coming to the agency.
Yeah, Emily, all of this chaos and confusion at the agency is having some lingering effects. There are scientists and researchers that have this mistrust of the data on the CDC website now. They're concerned that it's corrupted or that – The data that was re-uploaded? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Emily, all of this chaos and confusion at the agency is having some lingering effects. There are scientists and researchers that have this mistrust of the data on the CDC website now. They're concerned that it's corrupted or that – The data that was re-uploaded? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Emily, all of this chaos and confusion at the agency is having some lingering effects. There are scientists and researchers that have this mistrust of the data on the CDC website now. They're concerned that it's corrupted or that – The data that was re-uploaded? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're worried that it won't be collected in the same way going forward or that there might be interruptions to it. They're not sure that they can rely on it. Right. The agency is also, even though the communications freeze has officially lifted, it's not back to super normal communications. And staff morale is really awful.
So they're worried that it won't be collected in the same way going forward or that there might be interruptions to it. They're not sure that they can rely on it. Right. The agency is also, even though the communications freeze has officially lifted, it's not back to super normal communications. And staff morale is really awful.
So they're worried that it won't be collected in the same way going forward or that there might be interruptions to it. They're not sure that they can rely on it. Right. The agency is also, even though the communications freeze has officially lifted, it's not back to super normal communications. And staff morale is really awful.
I mean, some teams have lost really critical people and nobody there feels like their job is safe. So this week, there's a confirmation hearing for Dr. Dave Weldon, who is Trump's pick for the CDC. It's the first time that a CDC director needs to be confirmed by the Senate, and it could soon have a new leader.
I mean, some teams have lost really critical people and nobody there feels like their job is safe. So this week, there's a confirmation hearing for Dr. Dave Weldon, who is Trump's pick for the CDC. It's the first time that a CDC director needs to be confirmed by the Senate, and it could soon have a new leader.
I mean, some teams have lost really critical people and nobody there feels like their job is safe. So this week, there's a confirmation hearing for Dr. Dave Weldon, who is Trump's pick for the CDC. It's the first time that a CDC director needs to be confirmed by the Senate, and it could soon have a new leader.
I mean, I can jump in here, Emily. So based on how it's gone so far, people we've spoken with are worried that these cost-cutting measures are making things less efficient in the short term, and they're undermining these agencies and their ability to fulfill their missions to protect and improve people's health in the long run. Okay.