Pierre LeBrun

Selkie.

But what I'm saying is if you had just a defensive award for most points and then you had the Norris, I think you might see the Norris get different votes.

A guy like Jacob Slavin or Lacombe or like some of these guys who are actually complete defensive players that actually contribute offensively.

So you don't just go, oh, that guy got 90 points.

He's got to be in there.

Or this guy's dynamic or whatever.

I think you could have two separate awards, and it might actually shave off some of the bias towards the points as opposed to the word defenseman, defending.

I would much rather work with you guys than hear those who are playing on the golf course.

I think Carlo and those guys were on the course this morning.

Nobody called me.

What?

No, it's not a shame because they know that I would have accepted, and they don't want to waste their time and my time.

Why would I go and sit there on the course and waste their time?

I'd be on my cell phone.

Or your personality, like we have for everything.

I don't have to day drink and be on air, so I'll just be sitting there.

Well, the problem is, Stridey, I don't know if you know, but this guy will steal anything that's not nailed down.

No, why?

Because you know what guys are like.

I've played in so many dressing rooms, guys making $5 million a year, and a guy will walk in with a box full of free T-shirts that he got from Red Bull or something and say,