Pierre LeBrun

But, you know, you mentioned some names there, Mark, but

In all the years I voted on the Norris, I've never had more difficulty than I did this year.

I took a long time.

Searching it and putting in my votes, I will share that the three guys who got nominated today were among my five guys that I put on my five-man ballot.

But I believe that the Norris was eight players deep this year.

You mentioned Bouchard, definitely Lane Hudson.

Quinn Hughes wasn't nominated today.

Miro Hiskinen never gets talked about.

I mean, let's be real, he had another great year.

And Moritz Seider, I think, deserves way more talk than he's gotten for his well-rounded game and what he meant to the Red Wings.

So it was eight deep for me, and it's going to be controversial.

So controversy today because some big names weren't among the three, but wait till all of the voting is revealed, as it will be, once the winner's announced, because there will be people upset about where even the rest of those guys ended up in the rankings.

So Lane Hudson, by the way, we asked him about it today, and

He was really great in the way he described why Dallin deserved to be nominated and what he loves about Dallin's game.

Again, a lot of respect between these two teams and where they are.

I can't believe you're finished with it.

Yeah, well, let's start by, I made a few calls today knowing that I was coming on here.

So let's just bring this up to date on where I think the Leafs are under new management.

Number one, my understanding is that new GM John Dunchica is throwing dates back and forth with Austin Matthews and agent John Moldova to get some face-to-face and for him to go down to Arizona and spend time with Austin Matthews and

and get a sense of where things are and obviously from the lease perspective they hope they can