Pierre Poilievre

I remember what I was wearing when they said that to me because it's earth shattering.

It is actually.

I just can't, I can't forget it.

It was, it was traumatizing.

And Donald would eventually come out as gay.

That's right.

One would assume that he was dealing with...

The conflict of feelings.

Yes.

For much of the time.

Do you see how that's changed you as a man, as you've grown up, whether it's your sort of your perspective on what love and romance is or anything else?

When you speak of Marlene, you speak up with her with a great fondness and expression in your face that, you know, I've sat here six, 700 times.

So you get to see who matters most to people in their lives just by looking at their face.

And she's clearly on the podium.

At a very young age, it appears that you took a liking to politics.

I mean, you mentioned hockey first and Marlene taking you to hockey.

I've got a couple of photos of you playing hockey, which I found to be quite interesting.

But politics, when did politics come into your psyche?

One of the books that I realized you'd read at that time from some research is this book, Adam Smith, The Theory of Moral Sentiments.

What's that?