PJ Vogt

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Our executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis. Thank you to the team at Jigsaw, Alex Gibney, Rich Peralo, and John Schmidt. And to the team at Odyssey, J.D. Crowley, Rob Morandi, Craig Cox, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Maura Curran, Josephina Francis, Kurt Courtney, and Hilary Shuff. Our agent is Oren Rosenbaum at UTA.

Our executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis. Thank you to the team at Jigsaw, Alex Gibney, Rich Peralo, and John Schmidt. And to the team at Odyssey, J.D. Crowley, Rob Morandi, Craig Cox, Eric Donnelly, Colin Gaynor, Maura Curran, Josephina Francis, Kurt Courtney, and Hilary Shuff. Our agent is Oren Rosenbaum at UTA.

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I have a lot more appreciation for people who run businesses. I have spent years being the artist baby side of it. And you're just like, oh, it is its own art. It's its own creativity. It's really art.

I have a lot more appreciation for people who run businesses. I have spent years being the artist baby side of it. And you're just like, oh, it is its own art. It's its own creativity. It's really art.

I have a lot more appreciation for people who run businesses. I have spent years being the artist baby side of it. And you're just like, oh, it is its own art. It's its own creativity. It's really art.

So here's one of those questions that might actually be too big or at least unanswerable by another person. I am really struggling in the early days of the second Trump administration to figure out how much attention to pay to what the new federal government is doing. I keep asking myself what, if anything, I learned the first time around.

So here's one of those questions that might actually be too big or at least unanswerable by another person. I am really struggling in the early days of the second Trump administration to figure out how much attention to pay to what the new federal government is doing. I keep asking myself what, if anything, I learned the first time around.

So here's one of those questions that might actually be too big or at least unanswerable by another person. I am really struggling in the early days of the second Trump administration to figure out how much attention to pay to what the new federal government is doing. I keep asking myself what, if anything, I learned the first time around.

Back then, many of the stories I focused on ended up not mattering much. There were things that seemed maximally outrageous, but which later were supplanted by much more outrageous things. The first Trump presidency made everyone in American life more deranged, more crazy, including me.

Back then, many of the stories I focused on ended up not mattering much. There were things that seemed maximally outrageous, but which later were supplanted by much more outrageous things. The first Trump presidency made everyone in American life more deranged, more crazy, including me.

Back then, many of the stories I focused on ended up not mattering much. There were things that seemed maximally outrageous, but which later were supplanted by much more outrageous things. The first Trump presidency made everyone in American life more deranged, more crazy, including me.

And the second time around, I personally have just felt like a person who maybe once got too drunk and now has a chance on their second night out to try to adjust. Maybe. But it's difficult. One of the main facts of life in a Trump presidency is that the president is very talented at making your phone buzz.