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PJ Vogt

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Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Maybe it's because I know that Google would be one of the few tech companies whose driverless cars would not cause any fatal accidents in testing.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

and that the team would just take more safety precautions than the other companies who'd rush in later to catch up with them once this was an arms race.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The way these cars were designed, the safety driver sat behind the steering wheel, ready to take over.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In the other seat was their partner, watching the monitor displaying a graphical interface designed by Dmitry Dolgov.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The people watching the screen would call out problems ahead, some discrepancy between what the sensors were seeing and what was actually in the road.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

This is what teaching a car to drive actually looked like.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Two-person teams manning the cars, logging errors, going back to the office to troubleshoot, and then updating the code.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I asked Don Burnett about this era.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And while you're doing this and then like you leave work and you get in your car that you drive as a human, did you find yourself thinking more carefully like, how do I know what I know when I'm driving?

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Like you're trying to teach a machine by day.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Did it affect how you thought about human driving by night?

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Almost obnoxiously so to any passengers in the car with me.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I was obsessed with one big question, which is why do humans drive the way they drive?

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And it turns out there were no good answers.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And I still think they're not great answers.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And instead of actually answering that question, we've just turned to machine learning to infer the deep truths behind why humans do what they do.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And so there's some basic principles that you can understand.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Like we try to minimize lateral acceleration, meaning you don't want to be thrown to the outside of your car when you're making a turn.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

So you're going to slow down.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

But how much do you slow down, right?