PJ Vogt

How are you?

Doing very well.

I've never done anything like this before, but it's exciting.

I am excited to be talking to you.

It's been a long journey to get here.

I hear there's a lot that goes into these episodes, but it sounds like you go really deep on really niche topics.

I had a look at some and listened to a few since Garrett messaged me.

Yeah, I mean, you are the person at the bottom of our rabbit hole this week.

That's usually where people find me, to be honest.

This is Hrithik Karya, host of the podcast Football for Sale, which is actually about soccer, and also a former employee of the royal household.

What did you think about the palace before you worked there?

I think you have a really weird relationship with it growing up in the UK.

Like you sort of see it as this place that is shrouded in a lot of mystery.

And most of the time you see it is just on the TV when the royals are coming in and out of it.

I don't think a lot of British people actually do go inside of it because you sort of just walk by it and you're like, oh, that's just there.

And when I got the job, I was actually, that was the first time I'd ever been inside.

And then as soon as you go inside, you're like, this place is insane.

And how did you end up working there?

It was during my first year of university, and my dad said, you need to get a job over the summer because university holidays are much longer than school holidays.

So he was like, you need to get a job.