PJ Vogt

Wait, sorry, I have like three questions about that.

One, what is Chinese maxing?

Yes, but I don't understand them.

Send this video to a friend that you met during a very Chinese time in your life.

It's the idea that there is a country where things work that is far away from here.

And just from a manufacturing point of view, like at what point does China enter the fray?

Like how does China just become the U.S.

's sort of peptide supplier?

Let me give you the advice that I wish I had when I first started, and that's not to buy from the U.S.

sites.

They're upcharging you like crazy.

All they do is buy their peptides from China, slap a label on them, and charge you 10 times the amount.

And do you know, like, there's like this funny strain of U.S.-China relations in this, both that Chinese laboratories are the supplier in many cases, and also that the idea that this is like China-branded is enticing to people.

In like China's tech scene, are people taking peptides as far as you know?

So Chinese peptides are not mostly being taken by Chinese people.

They're being taken by Americans.

And what I wanted Jasmine to map for me was the path of cultural contagion that peptides followed.

The bodybuilders to the Silicon Valley execs, how the Maha movement picked peptides up, how teenage looks maxers had gotten in on this.

I wanted to understand what had motivated these different tribes to experiment with peptides.

So it turns out you can find posts about people seeking peptides on the internet as far back as 2005.