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PJ Vogt

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The Venezuelan Curse

What is the topic that I know very little about that I now have to rapidly fashion myself into a pseudo-expert on just to be a citizen?

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The Venezuelan Curse

Last year, for me, one of the stories I chose not to dig into was Venezuela.

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The Venezuelan Curse

It was there in my peripheral vision, Trump complaining about Venezuelan migrants, actively targeting them for deportation.

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The Venezuelan Curse

I noticed, of course, when we launched missile strikes against Venezuelan boats.

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The Venezuelan Curse

I could tell something weird was going on, but this is America under Trump.

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The Venezuelan Curse

Lots of weird things are always going on.

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The Venezuelan Curse

And I was just more worried about other parts of the front page last year.

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The Venezuelan Curse

But then, a couple weeks ago, our country sent troops to arrest their president and his wife, and Trump announced we were now in charge of Venezuela and that we were taking their oil.

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The Venezuelan Curse

And that was the point where I really felt like, okay, I need to understand this.

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The Venezuelan Curse

Not Trump, but Venezuela, this country we just got into a much more entangled relationship with.

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The Venezuelan Curse

So, I read some books, I talked to some experts, and I have to say, I kind of wish I'd started this earlier, because the history of Venezuela is just, as a story, so compelling, so fascinating.

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The Venezuelan Curse

So, without further ado, I just want to introduce to you the person who will guide us through that story today.

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The Venezuelan Curse

Alejandro's family moved to the US, to Miami, but he would return to Venezuela later, on his own, to study the place.

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The Venezuelan Curse

He wanted to understand the complexities of what had happened there, the complexities that had caused his family to leave.

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The Venezuelan Curse

He began his graduate studies in the year 2000, when Hugo Chavez had just entered the political scene.

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The Venezuelan Curse

How do you...

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The Venezuelan Curse

This is such a broad question to ask somebody who's gone so deeply into a country, but what do you think makes Venezuela unique?

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The Venezuelan Curse

How do you understand it as a country in your own mind?

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The Venezuelan Curse

So you're saying if I was in Caracas, I would look around and I would see these grand attempted pieces of architecture, different moments where there was a boom time and somebody was in power and they were like, this is my vision of the future.

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The Venezuelan Curse

They don't work out.