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PJ Vogt

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Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Chris Ermson compared it to an Olympic marathon where the best runner only makes it two of the 26 miles.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

What this contest had done, though, was it had flushed all these inventors out.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

It had jump-started the scene that would develop this technology.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

One of the most important people there that day, actually just watching, was someone I haven't mentioned yet, a legendary roboticist named Sebastian Thrun.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Sebastian Thrun, he was at the first Grand Challenge.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

He didn't bring a team.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

He wasn't participating.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

DARPA wanted to show off some other projects they'd been funding, including one of his robots.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

So he brings the robot, and so he's there.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And he watches this disaster, and he thinks, I can do better than this.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I looked at the very first iteration of this Grand Challenge where I didn't participate.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I was a spectator.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

This, of course, is Sebastian Thrun.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

He grew up in West Germany, moved to the US, taught at Carnegie Mellon before moving to Stanford.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Watching that day, he saw this fundamental error he believed all the entrants had made.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I saw that all the teams treated this like a hardware problem.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

They looked at this and say, we have to build a world with bigger wheels and bigger chassis and so on.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And I looked at this and said, well, wait a minute.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The challenge really is to build a self-driving car that can drive through the desert.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I can get a rental car.