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PJ Vogt

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Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In 2009, you could have seen Sheryl Crow there, the killers, Phish.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

But the most interesting show that year was one almost nobody knew about.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

In the venue parking lot, on days when there was no concert, no tour buses around to see them, the Google team would run its first test runs of their driverless cars, essentially hiding in plain sight.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

A Prius driving itself around the amphitheater parking lot with an attentive safety driver sitting behind the wheel, just in case.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The team was making sure the basics functioned, that the sensors could really recognize another car, that the computer in the car was abiding by their orders.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

These were the baby steps that happened in this parking lot and at an empty airplane runway that was close to their offices.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Spring 2009, the team tries actual, real road driving for the first time.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Chris Urmson takes one of the Priuses out on the Central Expressway.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Speed limit, 45 miles per hour.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

There are humans driving here.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

And immediately, outside the confines of the empty parking lot and empty airplane runway, here's what's clear.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

They had a real problem.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The car was swerving wildly.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

One more problem to fix.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Listening to this story, it's funny because I can imagine it giving me a totally different feeling than it does.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

A tech company with nobody's permission was testing driverless cars on public roads in California.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

I don't know why that strikes me as being about invention instead of just hubris and impunity.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

Maybe it's because I know that Google would be one of the few tech companies whose driverless cars would not cause any fatal accidents in testing.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

and that the team would just take more safety precautions than the other companies who'd rush in later to catch up with them once this was an arms race.

Freakonomics Radio
Are Human Drivers Finally Obsolete?

The way these cars were designed, the safety driver sat behind the steering wheel, ready to take over.