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PJ Vogt

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

It pooled within the vessel that was meant to hold it in the disaster.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Nobody died.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

And the radiation that was released was small enough that long-term studies have not found clear evidence of health effects in the people who lived by the plant.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

The facts of Three Mile Island offer a story really about the airbag deploying, the seatbelt working.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

But that's not how the story of Three Mile Island was metabolized by the American public.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Seven years later, of course, there'd be a real deadly nuclear disaster in the Soviet Union, Chernobyl.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

But America had turned on nuclear before that.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

And Dr. Slabaugh thinks part of the reason really was this movie, The China Syndrome.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

People treated it almost like a documentary.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Yeah, and nuclear in particular is, like, it's both super complicated, kind of...

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

hard to picture outside of most of my nuclear reactor reference or pop culture.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

And then when it breaks, it's so visceral.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

And so the way it shows up in your imagination and the way it shows up on a graph are just very divergent.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Right.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

It's so strange that part of solving the energy problem is about solving a problem of human psychology.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

That problem only got harder to solve a few years later, of course, with Chernobyl, somewhere around 30 immediate deaths, thousands more expected in the long term from cancer.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Of course, the plan at Chernobyl had insane design problems you would not find in an American nuclear plant.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

For instance, the Soviet reactor was a kind of design where if it started to overheat, the reaction would actually speed up, not slow down like in an American reactor, just a rundown late Soviet experiment.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

But for many Americans, this kind of mental composite image formed.

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Why are people excited about nuclear power again?

Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, atomic bombs, movies about nuclear death.