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Mick Unplugged
David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Two big things happened in my life that I always like to share. 50-40-10 by David Pollard. You can outdo 50% of the people in this world by showing up more, showing up with a good attitude, showing up ready to rock and roll. 40% is the next step. In the right direction, with the right effort, I'm beating 90% of people. But we got 10% left, Mick. To you, white standards are important.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Mike Tomlin, by the way, there are a few guys in professional sports that when they talk, I listen and he's one of them. I mean, just he is liquid gold. I mean, that dude is just in the way he says things. I'm just like, yeah, like I'll run through a wall for that. I can't imagine being a player every day and being called out and being held to that standard.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
But, you know, I saw so much of it making in my life. And I just I see so many people and I started to like see, OK, well, this is a person that want to work. And then I would see other people that would come in and I'd be like, all right, they complain all the time, but they work. And then I saw people that came in and they always worked and they didn't talk and they didn't complain.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And so you're like, what are the keys? Like, how do we bring this together and understand this? And so we started talking with our football team, man. Like, nothing that happened today, nothing that happened yesterday changes where you are right now. And where you are right now is at football. And if you're at football, I need to be my best. If I'm in school, I need to be my best.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I am going to adhere to this standard that whatever I do, I'm going to run the race and I'm going to be consistent and I'm going to do it in a manner in which to get the prize, right? Like I'm not just here to participate. I'm not here just to show up. There's such a big difference in life and showing up.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
into something like showing up and being there, like showing up and being present, just like with the football players, being able to tell them when they started their first day this year, when you walk in, You go to your teacher. I'm here to be a leader. I'm going to sit in the front row. I'm going to pay attention to the whole class. Like, I'm setting a standard. Like, this is who I am.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
This is what I am. This is what I'm going to be. And I think that takes some thought sometimes. And that takes some, I'm going to run and I'm going to go, well, oh, okay, this happens and it kind of knocks me down. Man, this stinks. I'm where I'm at. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, uh-uh. We ain't staying here though. That's not who we are. That's not what we are.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
When we show up, we show up with excellence. When we show up, we're going to punch that clock and we're going to make sure we fit the standard. So, you know, don't worry about how you feel every day because your feelings change every day and what people say change and the task changes, but that doesn't change who you are and what you bring to the table every single time.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Will you succeed all the time? No. But I know you're going to bring your best effort. I know you're going to compete. I know you're going to fight. And I know it's going to be important to you because you have a standard that you're going to actually hold yourself to.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I like that you put it that way because you're right. So when I got to Georgia... We started conditioning in the summertime, and I went in early so I could condition all through that summer. And Coach Van Gorder was my defensive coordinator, and he was always like, hey, Polak, come to the dark side. I'm like, Coach, it's Pollock. He was like, hey, Polak, come to the dark side.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I'm like, all right, forget it. He knows my name. He's calling me that on purpose, obviously. But he was like... He said he watched me in conditioning in the summer, and he said, you were looking and trying to beat everybody. And he was like, I just love the competitiveness. And so our defensive tackle room gets decimated with injuries.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I played defensive tackle in high school and running back. So I played both. So coach was like, hey, man, we need some defensive tackles. And so they throw me a defensive tackle. And I started playing defensive tackle. And it was awesome. It was great. It was a new challenge. It was hard. There was a lot coming at you fast.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And so I started at fullback, moved to defensive tackling camp, and then had a pretty decent freshman year. And then, Mick, before my sophomore year, like, I moved to defensive aim. So – You talk about three positions in less than a year on campus. And so it was a lot that came at you. But Coach Van Gorder saw me and kind of my attitude. And he was like, I think I think we can work with that.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
He was like he always said, like, you're more of a defensive player, like your mindset and your mentality. You need to be over here with us.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
You can be a little crazy to play football. Like, you can be a little crazy to, like, beating people up and banging your head against other people and enjoy it. Like, yeah, 100%.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Yeah, I think first of all, if you have influence over one person, you're a leader. So everybody got that crazy person in your family that likes you for no reason. So you're everybody's a leader. OK, and everybody has influence and opportunity to use it. And I would say this. When I was younger, I did it by example, 100%. And I didn't know how to communicate with people.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
It wasn't a strength of mine. And my definition of how I led was a direct reflection of how I like to be led and how I responded to how I was led. So I was fire and brimstone and I was get your butt to the ball. I didn't use those language because I wasn't a believer when I was younger a lot of times. And so I used a lot worse, but it was by challenging. It was by insults.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
You know, that was what I thought was leadership. That's what I saw from my coaches. And so that's what I kind of emulated. As I've gotten older, I've really learned the value of understanding who you are leading because not everybody's going to respond the same way. And it took me to having kids, Mick, to figure that out. I had a son who was totally different than me.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
He's my wife's personality to a T. Nothing bothers Nicholas, nothing. And he's just chill and everything's fine and it's gonna be okay. And I'm like, what is this alien? sweet baby Jesus, what am I doing? Like, God, what did you give me?
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And so really like coaching kids and six-year-old kids with football and seven-year-old kids and starting to see the different personalities and really what makes people tick and then pouring to them individually. And then you realize, oh man, you can get to know. And now I think more than ever, like understanding they've got to know you care about them. They have to know you care about them.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
When they know you care about them, you really have a position of authority with people and you can speak to them. And then nowadays, I think with kids, especially just, they got to know the why. Back in the day, Mick, back in our day, back in your day, daddy said, dig a hole. You freaking dug a hole. Like you dug a hole. Yeah.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Now, like if I said that to my 16 year old son, he'd be like, why, why am I digging a hole? I'm like, Man, I said, you know, I mean, so I think teaching them, first of all, showing up, being an example, understanding who you're leading. Leading with humility, leading with character and leading with standards over feelings.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like knowing that I got a guy that like when that dude checks in, man, he's the same. If everything's raised to a 10 right now, he's still the same. If it's at a one, he's the same. So those are things that I've learned along the way. I wish I had learned them when I was younger and I think I'd have been a lot more effective.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
But I think God's still teaching me things in my journey of learning how to lead kids to middle schoolers, to high school kids, to grownups. Thank you.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Fired. My mom, my mama, Nick knows this. My mom would be like, man, you were let go. And I was like, stop, she goes, stop telling people you were fired. I was like, mama, they told me to go away and not come back. So you can spin it however you want, mama. Like fired, let go, whatever. They said, go away. We don't want you anymore. So yeah, unfortunately, Mick, I got a lot of experience with that.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I think sometimes people, just like you introduced me with so many accolades and things that I've been successful at, dude, I've failed all along the way. I mean, I have failed so much more than I have succeeded. And I like to share those because those are real. And I think God has used every single one of them. Like you don't have the success without the failure.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And so for us, learning how to deal with failure, learning how to deal with adversity is huge. Kid, teenager, adult, senior citizen. Like we have to understand if you're not in a storm. If you're not in adversity, it's coming. It's not if, it's when. And so, you know, for me, I got it in high school. When I was a sophomore in high school, I didn't play varsity.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I didn't play JV because I was kind of stuck between two worlds. I had a dream. I told you, Mick, I had a dream of playing in the NFL. I was giving up all these things. Got frustrated. Got ticked off in a moment. Then I quit. Just dropped. I quit. And guess what? I had a coach, Eddie Shaddix, who believed in me and saw something in me before I did. And he's like, hey, man, just come work out.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
We'll do some curls and we'll get pretty for the girls. I'm like, deal. Cool. I'm in. And then all of a sudden I grow and then all of a sudden I get stronger and stronger and stronger. And now football is really fun when you're the hammer, not the nail. And so like he believed in me, but I had to face that adversity to learn to work and to grow and to get bigger and stronger.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And then I knew it was like to succeed. But I also knew it was like to fail. And, you know, same thing at Georgia, switching three positions in three years or in one year. One calendar year. I think nowadays it's easy. And some of us are like, no, I'm this. I think my goal is this. I think I'm that. You have no clue. Like there are going to be things that change along the way.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Are you willing to see it adapt and adjust and be great where you're at? Like if you're in a job right now and your job is to get coffee, do it to the best of your ability. Like crush it. Do it to a point where somebody looks at you in the company like, man, they do that with joy. They do that with something a little bit different, man.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like that's how we've got to approach those things because when we hit that adversity, when it comes to you, how do I respond? What does my response look like? Because here's what I've learned from adversity. Every single daggum time, 17th pick in the NFL draft, I'm making my NFL dream come true that I dreamed about since I was six years old. I'm doing it. Like exactly what I wanted to do.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
One play, bam, broken neck. Done, gone. You know what I learned in that one moment? I learned that that one moment led to two years of rehab and two years of recovery and a lot of grind. And I went from a healthy body that was strong as crud that could do anything I wanted to do to a guy that could do very little with a halo in my skull and couldn't lift weights. I benched 455 in college.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Covered.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
When I got out of my neck brace and I got cleared to lift, I benched 135 twice. And it looked like this, shaking like this. What's inside of you? What's next? Am I going to quit? Am I going to roll over? No. Every day. What can I do today to get me better? What are my goals today? And really that's when it started developing for me for everyday counts. That was my mantra.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I started texting myself the night before. And I started just saying, I will not go to bed without these three things done. Like this is going to get done. And that was most of those, by the way, then were physical because I was trying to get my body back to some assortments of normalcy. And then it turned into spiritual. And then it turned into like family related.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
as simple as like, hey, I'm going to tell my baby girl today three times that I love her. And it's a small goal, but like I had to start developing those systems and those small goals so I could get wins. So now, man, here's the thing. We serve a God that is so big and so great and a God that tells us in the scripture that he is for us.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
He didn't say he's for us when you're getting a raise or he's for us when things are going the way you want them to go. He's for us all the time. He wants good things for us. And so, When I go through a challenge, man, and something's hard, good. What is God going to teach me in this moment? There's something that I need to learn in this moment. There's something that's coming my way.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like my NFL career, gone. College game day. Fantastic. This is awesome. Got to travel the country and go see all the different schools and got to do things that I never thought I would get to do. I got to do that. Gone. I'm not crying because it's over. Now I'm smiling because it happened. Like, I'm so thankful that that happened. I got to do that. I can't imagine what God has for me next.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like, whatever it is, I know it's good. And all those situations, man, I can take all those different individual adversity moments. And I can tell you, like with my neck, and I'll close with that, like with my neck, I'm a better dad right now because I broke my neck. I'm a better husband because I broke my neck. I'm a, I'm better. I'm a better friend. I'm a better son.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like, A relationship requires talking back and forth and communication back and forth. Show me your girlfriend that you have when you don't communicate with her. I would argue they don't exist. It doesn't happen. So I really, the Bible says, be still and know that I am God. And I got to do that in those situations. And then God's taken me to the next step and the next step and the next step.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
and teaching me all these different things about me, about my family, those in my life who are in my life for the right reasons.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And it's really gotten me ready to be a dad, man, and to be able to handle some of those moments with my kids with adversity and to show them and to teach them what it looks like and how we've used those things in a positive way and how God brings those trials and those tribulations for us to grow, for us to learn and to depend on Him. And He will get us through every single situation.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Well, thank you, man, for having me on. Thank you for, you drove all the way to me, you know, not too long ago and spent some time with me, helping me on the speaking stuff. So I'm getting my organized Mick plan on, okay? Like Mick has a schedule and he's helping the ADD dude kind of, all right, let's streamline this. Let's think about this, think about this. So I appreciate you, big dog.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I didn't grow up with it at all in the household. And I had two great parents, Mama and Daddy, Kelly and Norm. And they did everything for me, loved me, supported my dreams like crazy. But church just wasn't something we did. And two events happened, two big things happened in my life that I always like to share. One, it started with an invite.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I love the message, man. Just keep, we're keeping this spread in the good news, man. The good news of Jesus, the good news of leadership and plugging in and helping our communities get better.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Yeah, man, we got a good bit going on right now. It's crazy what God does, again, with different turns. I wrote a children's book. We already talked about the dumb people are on defense, so dumb people don't write. So sat down and got still and wrote a children's book. The whole message you just heard, by the way, it was very much in that vein. Life is hard. That's what I use in the book.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
The three H's. It's hard, it's hot, and it hurts. Football does.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
life does and so it's the won't quit kid and so it's literally a story of perseverance and teaching parents like how do we help them when they say it's hard like structure the next day and let's go attack today and let's build these little goals so it's kind of very similar to my lifestyle but the speaking you know uh you can hit me on any of my social stuff with x or with instagram or whatever they are whatever those fun socials are and uh i have my website now davidpollock.com
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And, uh, the speaking is, is fun, Mick, you know, I've talked to you about that and just, I just love being able to share my message and my failures and adversity and successes and some of those ways to get in touch with people because I love being around them.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
So I think no matter what I do, whether it's coaching and commentating or whatever, speaking is something that will always be a big part of my life.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Appreciate you, my man. Thank you so much for having me on. And thank you all for all your help as well.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And I think that's what we all have the ability to do. My neighbor across the street was like, hey, man, we're going to the church. And I was like, yeah, okay. And he's like, we're having this lock-in. I was like, double out? Church? And you're going to lock me in the church? I'm out, bro. No way. And then he said, this is what got me, Mick. He said, we play sports and stay up all night.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Don't worry about how you feel every day because your feelings change every day and what people say change and the task changes, but that doesn't change who you are and what you bring to the table every single time. Will you succeed all the time? No.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
in right now, punch that ticket. And I was like, I get to stay up all night and do that. So that's the first time I'd ever heard about God. I never heard about God really. And I'm sure there were examples of people that tried, but I wasn't ready for it. And God put this moment in front of me. So a simple invite got me in the door.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And then I had a teacher named Mark Watson, who was my physics teacher. And Mark was so chill and so even, calm, cool, nice. And he had a Jesus sticker on his computer and he played praise and worship music at a public school in between classes. And I'll never forget, man, I had the good ability to annoy just about anyone. And I had so much energy and I was all over the place.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And Mark was just like, oh, it's okay, chill. And just had a really different spirit about him. And I was like, well, this dude's different, man. And so I tell people all the time, it started with an invitation and then a life worth emulating. A dude that was living out the gospel that was so crazy and so different and unique that I said, that's different. I want that.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And then when you spin it forward, going into the summer, so that was my junior year. That summer, we had to read 200 pages for outside reading for English. And I went to my English teacher and I said, hey, I'd like to pick the Bible. And she was like, why? And I was like, I don't know. I just, I want to read it. And she was like, well, I can't because you can't because I can't sit down with you.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I don't know. And I said- Mr. Watson can. And I went to Mr. Watson. He said, absolutely. And Mr. Watson sat down with me.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
volunteered his time and he literally sat down and he started to take me through matthew mark luke and john and he was laying out the gospels for me and i was like holy cow wait a minute like go back what like okay matthew did this and this is mark this is luke this is john different accounts of jesus and who is jesus and started to learn man and just fire questions and mark was so patient and so kind and just started to answer my questions and then from that point on man my life was absolutely never the same um accepted christ
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Started going to church and then got to go to the University of Georgia where God put more people in my life to continue my development.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
and I get that Mick I understand why and I'll be honest like I've also failed in some opportunities that I think I could have done better with sharing my faith and being more bold but like I remember I got invited to the Playboy Mansion you know I was an all Playboy All-American as a junior and I remember I turned it down because that's not like what I wanted to be known for or in alignment with and I remember like
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Yeah. I think, first of all, if you have influence over one person, you're a leader. So everybody got that crazy person in your family that likes you for no reason. So everybody's a leader. Dude, I've failed all along the way. I mean, I have failed so much more than I have succeeded. And I like to share those because those are real. The three H's is hard, it's hot, and it hurts.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
that that all of a sudden it got it went crazy and i had so many opportunities to talk about it i was like holy cow and then i started to to go and to do but like again there's a process man that i think when we come to faith we don't automatically know how to share you know our testimony and articulately put certain things but if we go back to my last story and how i came to faith
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
everybody can invite somebody to church. Everybody can do that. It's the preacher's job then to deliver the word or bring them to someone that they know. And everybody, the most important witness that we have is living our lives, is living out the gospel.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I don't care if you know scripture inside and out, if you don't treat people with respect and you don't love others, like if you don't do those things, nobody's going to go, man, I want to emulate that. Mark Watson, like He was so different and so unique. And so and he lived the fruits of the spirit so much that I'm like, I want more of that in my life.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And so we have an awesome opportunity to turn people on. And we have a awesome or a bad opportunity a lot of times to turn people off by the way we live our lives and the way we treat them.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
If you're going to be great, and you have big dreams and big goals, it's going to come with sacrifice. And like I had a mindset, now listen, I don't know, God gave me this. Like God gave me physicality and a mindset and a work ethic. Like that was God given. And then I slowly started to learn to hone it. And I'll never forget when I was in eighth grade watching the World Cup.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And it's the one with Brandi Chastain, the famous woman, they won gold. And I'll never forget the semifinal game, they're talking on the broadcast and they said, the girls stopped drinking carbonation because it hurts their conditioning. I'm in eighth grade, Mick. I'm 14 years old. It's the last time I've ever touched a carbonated beverage in my life.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Because I was like, dude, if I want to get here, I got to give that up. And so I started to learn at a young age, I got to do things that are different. I got to outwork people. And I do it with my daughter and I love it because me and my daughter had this little thing where she loves to work and she's starting to really embrace it. And I always say, baby girl, I said, we're working the dark.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
We're working the dark. Like we're working the dark. Don't worry about anything else. It will come to light. Like, but you just keep working the dark and it's kind of our own little thing that we've been able to do. But 50, 40, 10, you can outdo 50% of the people in this world. By showing up more, showing up with a good attitude, showing up ready to rock and roll.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Like every time you're there, be where your feet are. There is no elevators to the penthouse, bro. We taking the steps. We are taking the steps. We are going to be here and we are going to do it every single day. I don't care about your feelings. I care about where you are. OK, so there is a standard that we meet. It's standard over feelings like you're going to be here. This is who you are.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
This is what you are. And I compare that with football. Like when I walk in, like at practice, I'm not always going to be 100 percent. But there's also times that I stepped in Stanford Stadium, Stanford Stadium, where I was 70 percent. But that's where I'm at. So I got to find it and I got to give what I got. And so I had to learn that on the practice field by showing up continuously.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Forty percent is the next step. 40% of people, man, you can out think, you can out prepare, you can out organize. It's amazing to have a work ethic. That is a great thing. That is not a bad thing. But if we're climbing this mountain feverishly and we're getting to the top, like I'm gonna get to the top no matter what. And you get to the top and you go, oh crap, I climbed the wrong mountain.
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Like you did a lot of hard work and you grinded, but you're in the wrong spot, right? Like I went the wrong direction. So getting organized and realizing like with the direction I go every single day matters. So watching tape in football. was so huge because you build instincts, you build mental reps, you understand the game, you see things faster.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
So that was a big part of my success was I think I built more reps in my head and more success by thinking the game. And then when I got in it, it was slow. It was still, it was easy. Now I could be crazy and I could give in the right direction with the right effort. I'm beating 90% of people. All right, I'm not a math major.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I play defense and I'm not the smartest in the world, but we got 10% left, Mick. And the 10% left is you are left with those people that work their tail off. You are left with those people that have direction, that have guidance, that use nutrition, diet, and in my field, whatever it took to get to there. Now it's who's got this, man. Like you're left with a bunch of dogs.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Who's going to eat your heart with a spoon? Like who's going to stab until, who's going to give in? Who's going to keep fighting? Like it's going to suck. You're going to lose a lot of battles, but you better get your butt back up and you better get ready to roll because there's another one coming and another one coming. So that's how I define 50-40-10.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
Well, in the works, it's definitely something that's swirling and we're working on. But, you know, it's amazing. Like we all have different gifts and blessings. And man, I am ADD and you can tell probably like I'm high energy all over the place. And one thing that's been a struggle for me is like, can you get still enough? And can you sit down and can you do the things that need to get done?
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
I'm really learning that challenge. Like that's a challenge for me that I've done more of embracing, more reading. Like that's something that doesn't come natural. Like I'd rather work and be physical and go do something and be interactive.
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David Pollack | Standards Over Feelings: David Pollack's Path to Personal and Professional Growth
And, you know, just with my kids, like circling them up and making intentional time to pray and intentional time to read and intentional time to talk about things and stuff. So like that's something for me that's always a work in progress, an area in my life that I got to continue to grow and get better at.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Are they ever gonna be ready for somebody like me? Probably not.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
That's what I figure. Yeah. That's what I figure. You know, he's the reason I figure.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Nobody died while I was making a gown for them.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
No, I know for sure. They have been buried in my gown, yes, after they passed away. True. But they never died first while I was making it.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It travels the First Lady Museum across the country and the capitals of the United States of America. And I'm the second designer and the only Armenian to be inducted in American history as one of the premier designers that have dressed the First Lady that then is in the museum, the First Lady. So you can go to Sacramento. And I need to update my bio and my picture probably there.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's been a minute.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
The pen that we signed a declaration donating it to the museum.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Very cool. Yeah, it was a big moment for me because I thought, great, so here you go doing First Lady's to doing Anna Nicole Smith. I mean, you go from one spectrum to the other. And when people were asking me, oh, you're doing this and you're doing, I go, but they're all women. They're beautiful women. I'm a designer. I dress women. And regardless of what you think of that person, right?
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
or the persona that they identify on television or in the media, they're still a beautiful woman.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yes, she could have been at the Academy Awards. You'd never thought she was a porn star. Adult entertainment. Adult entertainment.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
But here's the thing. She's a beautiful person. She's a beautiful woman. What she does for a career, what she's good at or what she's known for, we all aspire to be attached to something. Yeah. And as long as you're healthy and doing it in the right way or that suits you. I think you should be allowed to be able to do what you like. But I'm a designer.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
So when people say, oh, you can't do that person, I'm like, why? Yeah. Yeah. That's what they said to me. You can never be a designer. I'm like, why? So when you ask why, I'm like, but it doesn't make sense. Somebody else could do it. Why couldn't I do it?
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Wow, what an introduction. I want to clap for me. Wait, I'm curious who's going to come on now because I'm very excited about wanting to listen to all these, the guys that you just described. They sound like a big deal.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Every single White House staff was wearing my mask.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yeah, well, somebody didn't call you. When we send out the masks and you could see them in the press room.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And you see them driving the car or you see them at the residence. They were all masked up at the White House. And they were all the masks that I had created for COVID. The entire.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And then it was actually the American flag. I had the blue. Yeah. I had the red and I had. They're very cool flag.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
You know what? I do want to start a men's brand that does a bow tie, socks, underwear, suspenders, accessories. Where if I looked at your suspender, I'd be like, oh, I know what he's got on underneath or maybe not.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I don't know. We can go. You look hot, so I don't know. You probably have beautiful toes, too. So here comes OnlyFans.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I do. Yeah. Very cool. I have no idea.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It was it was a dark alley one night. There was a Benjamin involved. He was doing a drive-by. I said, bitch, step aside. That's my man. That's my man. People are going to believe you.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
The naughty cruise. This is where I find them, honey. This is where I find them.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I was doing Mercedes Benz Fashion Week at Bryant Park, which is when they used to do it underneath the tent in New York City. It's one of the biggest things ever. And we have a mutual friend who's a fashion photographer who happened... that I stayed with while I was in New York at Bryant Park. He said, oh, great, let's do the interviews at my studio. It'll get exposure.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And why don't we do all the, I'll do some photography for your clothing, the new collection. And then he showed up. And I was like, what? Yeah.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Rotterdam.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I don't have an option, sorry.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's either my way or the fucking highway. So take a pick. So you want to be on the highway? Go for it.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's beyond not taking it personal. It's understanding what the marketplace needs.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Let me clarify. I know how to do all of those things. I choose not to. You do not know how to do all those things.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
So what I mean to say is- But he's a great designer. I know how to do all of it. You know, I want him to feel that he also has tasks and responsibilities that make the machine work so that he feels like he belongs.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I think you and I know the truth at this point. Okay.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And jump off into the water. And then swim to the kayak as they're towing it in the back of the little boat. Raft. I did. I did it.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Did you hear how he said he did it? Okay, you did it with me.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
We both did.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
No way.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
You asked how do you balance work and life and everything together. I think it's because I don't say no. I'm not in this relationship for myself. So I'm not asking for, oh, here's what I would like to do. Here's what I want for me. Oh, you know, I've never done that and I don't want to. I just know I don't want to. I've never been that person. We always challenge each other.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Because I've always been told no. I never say no, because I don't want to ever say no to anyone that I've never experienced something new. And how am I going to know what that is unless I do it? And if I do, whether I like it or not. And if it's something that makes my partner happy, am I not there 50% to support them in what they are there to do? Because it's their life journey as well.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And I don't want to impede their life journey just because I have an issue. But why do I have an issue? Maybe because I had a bad experience because of the person that I was with before or the scenario. But I feel comfortable knowing that I can trust the person that I'm with isn't going to lead me astray.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Well, when it comes to fashion, since I was 12 years old, it was something that I've always wanted to do, but it's been very challenging because coming from a background being Armenian, a transplant into the country when I was six years old and not being able to have the versatility to have the exposure and my family understanding what I really wanted to do.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
You shouldn't say gay. Same-sex couple.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Even though other people that were on the cover were coupled, they weren't together. They weren't, they never did a cover shot because we did a cover cover shot and the cover was only a single.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
relationship and not the couple we were the only couple yeah and josh vogel shot us he was amazing photographer that was really awesome we actually presented at the uh the guru awards where we gave josh vogel the lens of inclusion award yeah which was really cool yeah and innovate in innovations
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Well, it's everywhere you go. But YouTube is fun because when you get it on YouTube and it's free to subscribe. Yep. And what you do is you're actually getting to see. the expressions on our friends who are the celebrities that we interview and the crazy stuff that they say because they feel like they're sitting there at home with us hanging out and it's live.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's insane that I have a month and a half out waiting list of people that are trying to get in to the door.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yeah.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And we have bundles. So the minute they're done, they do a bundle so that they can get a link to be able to get to see me every other month. They're canceling their therapy sessions just to be able to hang out.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yeah. Yeah. Did you see them when I read her coffee grounds? Yeah. Yes. She's blown away. Was she? Her expression was, what? How do you know this? Yeah. And like, I'm your cop. Yeah.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
They kept saying that it's an impossibility because I needed to do something that was more relatable to what they understood. not what I figured out that was my calling, that I wanted to be a part of, the world of. And getting beaten up and telling me that I'm not good enough and I'm never going to be successful I thought to myself, well, wait a minute.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
No, totally agree. The thing is everybody from around the world have been booking. Yeah. And the time zone doesn't matter. We ship you all the products you need. Yep. And the one thing that I did say is I want it to be accessible and affordable for everyone to be able to take. advantage of and not make it so expensive where people can't
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's really, really great.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Plus, we have the boutique, and people are welcome to come in. We get the TMZ bus, the Hollywood Reporter bus. All of them, they stop in in front of the boutique. They talk about Anna Nicole. They talk about gowning out. They talk about undress. And then we're here all the time. So we always go out. We do a shout out. We say hello. We take pictures of people that are walking by. Yeah.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
So it's like home.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
He had to learn lines. And let me tell you, I didn't even audition for it. I just showed up at the party and they said, oh, my God, he's beautiful. He's perfect for this.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I said, but I'm not here for me. I'm just here supporting my husband in his role. They're like, OK, would you want to do a role? I said. I don't know about acting.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
So let's go back to it's either my way or the highway because you know. You ain't going to be on the highway if I ain't with you. I let him have it.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Did you not bring us to America for all those opportunities? Now I want that opportunity. How is it that you took me out of my little village and then brought me all the way here? And now you're telling me I can't do it. Well, if I couldn't do it, you should have just kept me where I was because now that I'm here. I've got to figure out how to do it.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Oh, and all I did was say, you know what? Isn't there a character missing on this poster that has such an important, that occupies such important space?
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I mean, I'm pretty- You couldn't let him have just a little bit? I did. I did. He's in the bottom, in the center. I'm on the top, on the side.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I just, you know- I don't make these decisions. I just, and that's the one thing.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
You don't make them, you influence them. I didn't even try to influence them. I only want to be the very best version of me every single day and be present to every single thing that we're there for. So if I'm that person and people get to notice me, then you know what? I don't want to say no to them when they offer me a role.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I don't want to break their hearts and spirit in the direction that they want to take the vision. I'm like, I'm still there. I'm going to support it. I sat on set for 14 hours.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And they wanted to give me more lines. I said, you know what? This is overwhelming. It's a lot. Let's just stay with two lines.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I don't want to screw it up.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Yeah.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
That was one line.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Well, that's because he's always wanted to be an actor. He's an actor. I'm not. I just play me all day. Listen, I don't know how to do anything else. I don't know how to be anybody else. I don't even want to try. It's too much to be this.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's a lot.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Let me tell you, it's a lot.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
That is a lot.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's a lot between designing gowns. Running the boutique, being a teacher, teaching fashion, doing the podcast, having the TV show, Gown and Out, doing the radio show.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Doing the coffee reads. I'm the one doing it. Hello.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Of course. I did have a conversation with my boss. I did have a conversation with my boss last night and it didn't go that well. I'm reconsidering maybe finding another partner in the business for me to money get.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
I gotcha. Cool. I gotcha. Very cool.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And if you can't help me how to figure it out, I guess I'm going to have to do the heavy lifting on that part too. So I just started embarking on the journey of wanting to be a fashion designer. And after 35 years of being in Beverly Hills... I'm still trying to figure out how to be a fashion designer. I mean, I've had my boutique for 35 years and a lot of people ask me, have you found success?
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Paul. P-O-L-A-T-T-E-U. All my platforms. Please follow me. I need me some followers. Just follow me. It doesn't hurt you. It doesn't cost you. So ring my bell, press the subscribe button, or just press the follow button, bitch. Let's go.
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Do you feel like you know what success is? And I wonder if I've ever wanted the success in the capacity that they're asking me to question in. Because I think the success was when I decided what I wanted to do when I was 12 and embarking on the journey to be able to see my dreams come true in the capacity that I have. Am I successful? In a lot of ways, yes. Do I find that I'm at my success level?
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
Probably not because there's so much more to do. There's so much more you uncover. There's so much more that you inspire yourself to want to do. And then, of course, knowing how fast fashion changes, right? And keeping up with the trends, the colors, the styles, the fit, and being a world renowned, there's so many different markets that you have to tap into.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
You're thinking to yourself, this can't be it. There's more. And then every day you wake up, you're excited to have to do it again. And that's the journey that I'm still on. And having a boutique, a flagship store in Beverly Hills at Rodeo Drive for over 35 years. tells me that I've been doing it OK, but now I got to step it up and do a little better.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
It's beyond not taking it personal. It's understanding what the marketplace needs and where they're at in order for you to be to put together for them. And in the different markets that we have internationally around the world, there's so much that we have access to, especially with The Internet, especially with all the tools that we have available to ourselves now, it's become even more versed.
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It was a dark alley one night. There was a Benjamin involved. Couple ventures. He was doing a drive-by. I said, bitch, step aside. That's my man.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
And if you don't keep up, you fall off the face. And so you need to be able to make yourself relevant. One of the reasons why I started teaching, because I teach high school. Fashion. And one of the reasons why I started teaching is because I never had that growing up.
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I thought, great, well, if you can't figure it out in high school because they give you all the academics, how do you know what you want to do when you get to college and you're wasting another two years trying to figure out what it is that you're calling it? So in high school, we created a whole fashion program where then you're able to at least see, because there's so many facets to fashion.
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There's a business angle, there's the marketing, there's the design, there's the production. There's so many different, and any one of those businesses, can stand on their own entity. So it's not just fashion related. It's the computerization. It's the marketing. It's the social media. It's the advertising. It's the collection. It's the grading. It's the there's so many. And I thought, great.
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So you want to be a business person. Why don't you run a fashion conglomerate? If you want to be a social media expert, then why don't you do social media for a fashion brand or start one? If you're going to do designing, you could design anything. architecture do an entire building alongside the construction on a body.
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It's the same thing when you're doing on soil, the other one you're doing on a human figure. So having all those facets to an industry, that's one of the biggest, um, in the world. There's so many different places that when you're in high school, you've got the versatility to be able to go, Oh my God, I had no idea I could do that. I thought fashion was just, you design clothes.
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I don't want to be a designer, but I'm really good at marketing and I can take what their vision is, what the, the brand is. And I, Give it exposure that it really needs. And by the time you get to college, and a lot of kids don't want to go to college these days because they've already started a business when they're 15. They started a business when they're 14 online.
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So they're not looking to college to get a diploma to be able to get a job at a firm. They've got platforms online that they can sell, they can make, they can swap. There's so many different ways. They can trade, so many different things.
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And I'm like, what a great opportunity that I never had growing up until I got to college to figure out that I needed to learn, get a degree and then go get a job versus what technology is now offering the youth, how they can take advantage of being able to know to do it and not just wait for the opportunity to bring it. So create your own and start it how you do.
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And that's one of the reasons why I feel like giving back to that kind of a community and then being in the I find success in that. I find that I'm able to then nurture a generation of youth that never had the opportunity or wouldn't even think that it is possible. The way they never told me that it was for me when I was growing up.
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Patrik & Pol | Fashion, Fame, and Fun: Exploring Patrik & Pol's World on Mick Unplugged
We don't have an option. Sorry. It's either my way or the fucking highway. So take a pick. So you want to be on the highway? Go for it.