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It was it was a dark alley one night. There was a Benjamin involved. He was doing a drive-by. I said, bitch, step aside. That's my man. That's my man. People are going to believe you.

The naughty cruise. This is where I find them, honey. This is where I find them.

I was doing Mercedes Benz Fashion Week at Bryant Park, which is when they used to do it underneath the tent in New York City. It's one of the biggest things ever. And we have a mutual friend who's a fashion photographer who happened... that I stayed with while I was in New York at Bryant Park. He said, oh, great, let's do the interviews at my studio. It'll get exposure.

And why don't we do all the, I'll do some photography for your clothing, the new collection. And then he showed up. And I was like, what? Yeah.

Rotterdam.

I don't have an option, sorry.

It's either my way or the fucking highway. So take a pick. So you want to be on the highway? Go for it.

Let me clarify. I know how to do all of those things. I choose not to. You do not know how to do all those things.

So what I mean to say is- But he's a great designer. I know how to do all of it. You know, I want him to feel that he also has tasks and responsibilities that make the machine work so that he feels like he belongs.

I think you and I know the truth at this point. Okay.

And jump off into the water. And then swim to the kayak as they're towing it in the back of the little boat. Raft. I did. I did it.

Did you hear how he said he did it? Okay, you did it with me.

We both did.

No way.

You asked how do you balance work and life and everything together. I think it's because I don't say no. I'm not in this relationship for myself. So I'm not asking for, oh, here's what I would like to do. Here's what I want for me. Oh, you know, I've never done that and I don't want to. I just know I don't want to. I've never been that person. We always challenge each other.

Because I've always been told no. I never say no, because I don't want to ever say no to anyone that I've never experienced something new. And how am I going to know what that is unless I do it? And if I do, whether I like it or not. And if it's something that makes my partner happy, am I not there 50% to support them in what they are there to do? Because it's their life journey as well.

And I don't want to impede their life journey just because I have an issue. But why do I have an issue? Maybe because I had a bad experience because of the person that I was with before or the scenario. But I feel comfortable knowing that I can trust the person that I'm with isn't going to lead me astray.

You shouldn't say gay. Same-sex couple.

Even though other people that were on the cover were coupled, they weren't together. They weren't, they never did a cover shot because we did a cover cover shot and the cover was only a single.

relationship and not the couple we were the only couple yeah and josh vogel shot us he was amazing photographer that was really awesome we actually presented at the uh the guru awards where we gave josh vogel the lens of inclusion award yeah which was really cool yeah and innovate in innovations