Preston Perry

I'll skip over that part. But I found this part very interesting. Very on the edge of your seat, Al. However, I haven't been able to get a non-biblical discussion out of my mind, specifically the debate you've had on what is the best type of cheese to put on a burger. As a proud Wisconsinite, So this is the equivalent to, I would argue, the Godhead of the Bible, if you want to relate that.

I'll skip over that part. But I found this part very interesting. Very on the edge of your seat, Al. However, I haven't been able to get a non-biblical discussion out of my mind, specifically the debate you've had on what is the best type of cheese to put on a burger. As a proud Wisconsinite, So this is the equivalent to, I would argue, the Godhead of the Bible, if you want to relate that.

The reason I was excited that you were coming on after I watched a couple videos is that, because I really wasn't raised in the church either. I mean, I guess I was a young kid when my parents came to the Lord, and I witnessed that transformation in real life from literally the bar lifestyle, because that's what my dad did for a living, he leased a bar. And it wasn't a nice bar. It was rough.

The reason I was excited that you were coming on after I watched a couple videos is that, because I really wasn't raised in the church either. I mean, I guess I was a young kid when my parents came to the Lord, and I witnessed that transformation in real life from literally the bar lifestyle, because that's what my dad did for a living, he leased a bar. And it wasn't a nice bar. It was rough.

And they didn't really have any rules about our presence in the bar. I mean, that's basically what I was seeing. And I'm actually thankful for it because I was looking around thinking, these are some of the most depressing, angry people that I've ever seen. I mean, it was, it actually, uh, you know, it affects people different way, which Al was older than, than I was when my dad came to the Lord.

And they didn't really have any rules about our presence in the bar. I mean, that's basically what I was seeing. And I'm actually thankful for it because I was looking around thinking, these are some of the most depressing, angry people that I've ever seen. I mean, it was, it actually, uh, you know, it affects people different way, which Al was older than, than I was when my dad came to the Lord.

But so I, like you, uh, You know, kind of was just looking on my own at the Bible without this kind of predisposed theology, I guess. And what struck me in what you do and what I do, which is similar, is, you know, we're in the book of John now. We're studying. But when you look at what Jesus did, I mean, the first red letters in John is a question to his potential followers.

But so I, like you, uh, You know, kind of was just looking on my own at the Bible without this kind of predisposed theology, I guess. And what struck me in what you do and what I do, which is similar, is, you know, we're in the book of John now. We're studying. But when you look at what Jesus did, I mean, the first red letters in John is a question to his potential followers.

He said, what do you want? And, of course, they didn't really answer his question. They were like, where are you staying? And he said, come and you'll see. And the whole book, after John gives this kind of deep theology about how Jesus came to earth in the body of a human, it then has all these conversations about

He said, what do you want? And, of course, they didn't really answer his question. They were like, where are you staying? And he said, come and you'll see. And the whole book, after John gives this kind of deep theology about how Jesus came to earth in the body of a human, it then has all these conversations about

with people that kind of validates God came to earth and he had conversations with people. I mean, you know, you had Nicodemus and, you know, he was a religious leader and he tells them the exact opposite thing that you would ever think somebody would tell a religious leader, which is you need to be born again.

with people that kind of validates God came to earth and he had conversations with people. I mean, you know, you had Nicodemus and, you know, he was a religious leader and he tells them the exact opposite thing that you would ever think somebody would tell a religious leader, which is you need to be born again.

Well, Wisconsin is the capital of, Of cheese. Yeah. Would you agree?

Well, Wisconsin is the capital of, Of cheese. Yeah. Would you agree?

And then, you know, in John 4, he talks with the Samaritan woman, which had broken so many rules, just having the conversation at the well. And her past was, to your point, very transparent. And then Jesus, you know, kind of identifies with, yeah, he knows your past, and he knows your present, that you're currently living with a guy that's not your husband. Right.

And then, you know, in John 4, he talks with the Samaritan woman, which had broken so many rules, just having the conversation at the well. And her past was, to your point, very transparent. And then Jesus, you know, kind of identifies with, yeah, he knows your past, and he knows your present, that you're currently living with a guy that's not your husband. Right.

And then she became kind of the first missionary in that town. And I remember reading that at 14 years old, and I thought the same thing. I thought, man, this is so real and transparent and the opposite of what I'm now hearing at the church building that I'm going to. Wow.

And then she became kind of the first missionary in that town. And I remember reading that at 14 years old, and I thought the same thing. I thought, man, this is so real and transparent and the opposite of what I'm now hearing at the church building that I'm going to. Wow.

So maybe that's why we developed this, which I think it's doing Jesus stuff, having conversations with people. wherever you are, because I think that's how God works. That's amazing.

So maybe that's why we developed this, which I think it's doing Jesus stuff, having conversations with people. wherever you are, because I think that's how God works. That's amazing.

Now, listen to this. As a proud Wisconsinite and a granddaughter of the founder of Sargento, which is a company that produces cheese products. Which is one of my favorites. Yeah, and we're not here doing a commercial for Sargento. Although we're open if you'd like to do that.

Now, listen to this. As a proud Wisconsinite and a granddaughter of the founder of Sargento, which is a company that produces cheese products. Which is one of my favorites. Yeah, and we're not here doing a commercial for Sargento. Although we're open if you'd like to do that.

I love their product. My favorite product they have, and it's hard to find, they put peppers in Colby Jack cheese. They call it Pepper Jack because I don't... So it's like, if you get cheddar cheese, okay. You get pepper jack, okay. But somehow they combine that, but it's not in our area very much. And so I always tell Missy, she's like, what are you out of? And I'm like, go find that. I love it.

I love their product. My favorite product they have, and it's hard to find, they put peppers in Colby Jack cheese. They call it Pepper Jack because I don't... So it's like, if you get cheddar cheese, okay. You get pepper jack, okay. But somehow they combine that, but it's not in our area very much. And so I always tell Missy, she's like, what are you out of? And I'm like, go find that. I love it.

So she said, I couldn't help but feel the need to chime in. So she's chiming in on the argument. Okay. Now listen to this. This is her letter, not me. Admittedly, everything Zach was describing as to how he makes his burgers sounded mouthwatering, dot, dot, dot. Until he dropped the line about a slice of processed cheese on top. I literally gasp out loud in horror. Yuck.

So she said, I couldn't help but feel the need to chime in. So she's chiming in on the argument. Okay. Now listen to this. This is her letter, not me. Admittedly, everything Zach was describing as to how he makes his burgers sounded mouthwatering, dot, dot, dot. Until he dropped the line about a slice of processed cheese on top. I literally gasp out loud in horror. Yuck.

Processed cheese just doesn't compare to the real deal, Zach. It sticks to the roof of your mouth. It's oily and it isn't even all cheese. So don't call it that. So what she did. And she sent, I guess from her parents or grandparents, a box of cheese as a compromise. And I didn't even know Sargento made this.

Processed cheese just doesn't compare to the real deal, Zach. It sticks to the roof of your mouth. It's oily and it isn't even all cheese. So don't call it that. So what she did. And she sent, I guess from her parents or grandparents, a box of cheese as a compromise. And I didn't even know Sargento made this.

We would die for a lie knowing it was a lie, especially when all you have to do is say, hey, I'm out.

We would die for a lie knowing it was a lie, especially when all you have to do is say, hey, I'm out.

I've noticed a pattern of behavior from our audience. They will hear an argument. And most of these things so far have been non-biblical, the arguments. So quite a few podcasts ago, I'd already just disfellowshipped Zach on this issue. But our Unashamed Nation representative has spoken, and they want to resolve an argument that we had that I think was unresolved.

I've noticed a pattern of behavior from our audience. They will hear an argument. And most of these things so far have been non-biblical, the arguments. So quite a few podcasts ago, I'd already just disfellowshipped Zach on this issue. But our Unashamed Nation representative has spoken, and they want to resolve an argument that we had that I think was unresolved.

Hmm.

Hmm.

That's what people need to understand. That is the answer of all these social issues, right? That we have. Jesus pulls us together. I mean, when I look at your backdrop, I'm like, okay, Preston likes tennis shoes. But if you look at my closet, I have boots that are like your shoes because I'm in the woods. And I bet I have 30 different kinds.

That's what people need to understand. That is the answer of all these social issues, right? That we have. Jesus pulls us together. I mean, when I look at your backdrop, I'm like, okay, Preston likes tennis shoes. But if you look at my closet, I have boots that are like your shoes because I'm in the woods. And I bet I have 30 different kinds.

Have you actually gone hunting, President?

Have you actually gone hunting, President?

There's a beanie. Well, look at this. The beanie says life is... Life is Gouda. Yeah, I'll actually wear that. She sent this. I wonder where the cameras are.

There's a beanie. Well, look at this. The beanie says life is... Life is Gouda. Yeah, I'll actually wear that. She sent this. I wonder where the cameras are.

Well, I always remember there's a certain amount of danger to anything that's really exciting.

Well, I always remember there's a certain amount of danger to anything that's really exciting.

Look, so it looks like the little slice of cheese that Zach was talking about.

Look, so it looks like the little slice of cheese that Zach was talking about.

Yeah, but it's real.

Yeah, but it's real.

Okay, so let's have an argument about that. Cheese doesn't expire.

Okay, so let's have an argument about that. Cheese doesn't expire.

No, we basically go through the seasons because we were raised in an environment where that's how we put food on the table. So we became expert hunters because we kind of went back to the hunter-gatherer.

No, we basically go through the seasons because we were raised in an environment where that's how we put food on the table. So we became expert hunters because we kind of went back to the hunter-gatherer.

Yeah, because that is kind of our lifestyle as a family. Then we'll gather around. And I mean family as a forever family in Christ.

Yeah, because that is kind of our lifestyle as a family. Then we'll gather around. And I mean family as a forever family in Christ.

I know, I've seen people eat the mold.

I know, I've seen people eat the mold.

You've never tried this, though.

You've never tried this, though.

Let me just say this. Because I've never seen this before. Your argument has become the equivalent to Swiss cheese. When I'm now viewing you, there's holes popping up in your anatomy.

Let me just say this. Because I've never seen this before. Your argument has become the equivalent to Swiss cheese. When I'm now viewing you, there's holes popping up in your anatomy.

You have the t-shirt on right now, the cheddar version, and all of a sudden it's just holes are just cropping up everywhere.

You have the t-shirt on right now, the cheddar version, and all of a sudden it's just holes are just cropping up everywhere.

Well, how about we'll try it, and we'll get back to... What was her name? The problem is I've got weeks before I could... Hey, look, here's the deal.

Well, how about we'll try it, and we'll get back to... What was her name? The problem is I've got weeks before I could... Hey, look, here's the deal.

All right, so here's what I'll do. You have to be now our decider, Joe. I will, because I'm... Boy, if there's ever a diet that I have to go on, which I've never been on one, if it involves cheese, I'm like our Sicilian friend that we had on the last podcast. I must eat cheese.

All right, so here's what I'll do. You have to be now our decider, Joe. I will, because I'm... Boy, if there's ever a diet that I have to go on, which I've never been on one, if it involves cheese, I'm like our Sicilian friend that we had on the last podcast. I must eat cheese.

I'm not. I've had his. No, you haven't had.

I'm not. I've had his. No, you haven't had.

No, I haven't. But I've eaten that. That American cheese.

No, I haven't. But I've eaten that. That American cheese.

Well, you're wrong. You have brought preconceived notions to the argument.

Well, you're wrong. You have brought preconceived notions to the argument.

I will say this. Upon first inspection, visually, this looks like something that I would ingest in my body. Yeah, I think it's going to be good. When you got to remember where the processed cheese that he said, the only reason we ate that as kids was due to poverty. Because that is the cheapest. And availability. Yeah. I also ate mayonnaise sandwiches when I was a kid. Yeah.

I will say this. Upon first inspection, visually, this looks like something that I would ingest in my body. Yeah, I think it's going to be good. When you got to remember where the processed cheese that he said, the only reason we ate that as kids was due to poverty. Because that is the cheapest. And availability. Yeah. I also ate mayonnaise sandwiches when I was a kid. Yeah.

No, I'm combining the origin plus the taste because my first reaction to it was a gag reflex. And I thought, this doesn't taste like cheese.

No, I'm combining the origin plus the taste because my first reaction to it was a gag reflex. And I thought, this doesn't taste like cheese.

And this was, you'll have to scroll back a few podcasts. Remember when we had the debate about the greatest hamburger and who makes them?

And this was, you'll have to scroll back a few podcasts. Remember when we had the debate about the greatest hamburger and who makes them?

And Zach had everyone on the edge of their seat because... We resolved it. He said he had this secret thing that made it over the top. And he kind of tried to sell it on his body type, you know, because you're thinking... You know, I never trust a skinny chef, you know. That was pre-PhD weight loss.

And Zach had everyone on the edge of their seat because... We resolved it. He said he had this secret thing that made it over the top. And he kind of tried to sell it on his body type, you know, because you're thinking... You know, I never trust a skinny chef, you know. That was pre-PhD weight loss.

Now, where else could you go on the planet? Because I had not met Preston either, and they said, we have a guest. So I looked into you and watched some of your videos online, which are quite popular. They're very good. And if I don't surmise this, well, you can correct me. But you basically just have street conversations with people.

Now, where else could you go on the planet? Because I had not met Preston either, and they said, we have a guest. So I looked into you and watched some of your videos online, which are quite popular. They're very good. And if I don't surmise this, well, you can correct me. But you basically just have street conversations with people.

And the more I watched, the more I was like, well, Preston reminds me of me. Which is what I thought when I was reading that book.

And the more I watched, the more I was like, well, Preston reminds me of me. Which is what I thought when I was reading that book.

All of a sudden, he dropped the processed cheese.

All of a sudden, he dropped the processed cheese.

I'm telling you. And I thought, no, I'm out. So here was a letter.

I'm telling you. And I thought, no, I'm out. So here was a letter.

Wanting to resolve the issue. And this is from Shelly. And she gave a few pleasantries and compliments on the podcast.

Wanting to resolve the issue. And this is from Shelly. And she gave a few pleasantries and compliments on the podcast.

I'll skip over that part. But I found this part very interesting. Very on the edge of your seat, Al. However, I haven't been able to get a non-biblical discussion out of my mind, specifically the debate you've had on what is the best type of cheese to put on a burger. As a proud Wisconsinite, So this is the equivalent to, I would argue, the Godhead of the Bible, if you want to relate that.

The reason I was excited that you were coming on after I watched a couple videos is that, because I really wasn't raised in the church either. I mean, I guess I was a young kid when my parents came to the Lord, and I witnessed that transformation in real life from literally the bar lifestyle, because that's what my dad did for a living, he leased a bar. And it wasn't a nice bar. It was rough.

And they didn't really have any rules about our presence in the bar. I mean, that's basically what I was seeing. And I'm actually thankful for it because I was looking around thinking, these are some of the most depressing, angry people that I've ever seen. I mean, it was, it actually, uh, you know, it affects people different way, which Al was older than, than I was when my dad came to the Lord.

But so I, like you, uh, You know, kind of was just looking on my own at the Bible without this kind of predisposed theology, I guess. And what struck me in what you do and what I do, which is similar, is, you know, we're in the book of John now. We're studying. But when you look at what Jesus did, I mean, the first red letters in John is a question to his potential followers.

He said, what do you want? And, of course, they didn't really answer his question. They were like, where are you staying? And he said, come and you'll see. And the whole book, after John gives this kind of deep theology about how Jesus came to earth in the body of a human, it then has all these conversations about

with people that kind of validates God came to earth and he had conversations with people. I mean, you know, you had Nicodemus and, you know, he was a religious leader and he tells them the exact opposite thing that you would ever think somebody would tell a religious leader, which is you need to be born again.

Well, Wisconsin is the capital of, Of cheese. Yeah. Would you agree?

And then, you know, in John 4, he talks with the Samaritan woman, which had broken so many rules, just having the conversation at the well. And her past was, to your point, very transparent. And then Jesus, you know, kind of identifies with, yeah, he knows your past, and he knows your present, that you're currently living with a guy that's not your husband. Right.

And then she became kind of the first missionary in that town. And I remember reading that at 14 years old, and I thought the same thing. I thought, man, this is so real and transparent and the opposite of what I'm now hearing at the church building that I'm going to. Wow.

So maybe that's why we developed this, which I think it's doing Jesus stuff, having conversations with people. wherever you are, because I think that's how God works. That's amazing.

Now, listen to this. As a proud Wisconsinite and a granddaughter of the founder of Sargento, which is a company that produces cheese products. Which is one of my favorites. Yeah, and we're not here doing a commercial for Sargento. Although we're open if you'd like to do that.

I love their product. My favorite product they have, and it's hard to find, they put peppers in Colby Jack cheese. They call it Pepper Jack because I don't... So it's like, if you get cheddar cheese, okay. You get pepper jack, okay. But somehow they combine that, but it's not in our area very much. And so I always tell Missy, she's like, what are you out of? And I'm like, go find that. I love it.

So she said, I couldn't help but feel the need to chime in. So she's chiming in on the argument. Okay. Now listen to this. This is her letter, not me. Admittedly, everything Zach was describing as to how he makes his burgers sounded mouthwatering, dot, dot, dot. Until he dropped the line about a slice of processed cheese on top. I literally gasp out loud in horror. Yuck.

Processed cheese just doesn't compare to the real deal, Zach. It sticks to the roof of your mouth. It's oily and it isn't even all cheese. So don't call it that. So what she did. And she sent, I guess from her parents or grandparents, a box of cheese as a compromise. And I didn't even know Sargento made this.

We would die for a lie knowing it was a lie, especially when all you have to do is say, hey, I'm out.

I've noticed a pattern of behavior from our audience. They will hear an argument. And most of these things so far have been non-biblical, the arguments. So quite a few podcasts ago, I'd already just disfellowshipped Zach on this issue. But our Unashamed Nation representative has spoken, and they want to resolve an argument that we had that I think was unresolved.

Hmm.

That's what people need to understand. That is the answer of all these social issues, right? That we have. Jesus pulls us together. I mean, when I look at your backdrop, I'm like, okay, Preston likes tennis shoes. But if you look at my closet, I have boots that are like your shoes because I'm in the woods. And I bet I have 30 different kinds.

Have you actually gone hunting, President?

There's a beanie. Well, look at this. The beanie says life is... Life is Gouda. Yeah, I'll actually wear that. She sent this. I wonder where the cameras are.

Well, I always remember there's a certain amount of danger to anything that's really exciting.

Look, so it looks like the little slice of cheese that Zach was talking about.

Yeah, but it's real.

Okay, so let's have an argument about that. Cheese doesn't expire.

No, we basically go through the seasons because we were raised in an environment where that's how we put food on the table. So we became expert hunters because we kind of went back to the hunter-gatherer.

Yeah, because that is kind of our lifestyle as a family. Then we'll gather around. And I mean family as a forever family in Christ.

I know, I've seen people eat the mold.

You've never tried this, though.

Let me just say this. Because I've never seen this before. Your argument has become the equivalent to Swiss cheese. When I'm now viewing you, there's holes popping up in your anatomy.

You have the t-shirt on right now, the cheddar version, and all of a sudden it's just holes are just cropping up everywhere.

Well, how about we'll try it, and we'll get back to... What was her name? The problem is I've got weeks before I could... Hey, look, here's the deal.

All right, so here's what I'll do. You have to be now our decider, Joe. I will, because I'm... Boy, if there's ever a diet that I have to go on, which I've never been on one, if it involves cheese, I'm like our Sicilian friend that we had on the last podcast. I must eat cheese.

I'm not. I've had his. No, you haven't had.

No, I haven't. But I've eaten that. That American cheese.

Well, you're wrong. You have brought preconceived notions to the argument.

I will say this. Upon first inspection, visually, this looks like something that I would ingest in my body. Yeah, I think it's going to be good. When you got to remember where the processed cheese that he said, the only reason we ate that as kids was due to poverty. Because that is the cheapest. And availability. Yeah. I also ate mayonnaise sandwiches when I was a kid. Yeah.

No, I'm combining the origin plus the taste because my first reaction to it was a gag reflex. And I thought, this doesn't taste like cheese.

And this was, you'll have to scroll back a few podcasts. Remember when we had the debate about the greatest hamburger and who makes them?

And Zach had everyone on the edge of their seat because... We resolved it. He said he had this secret thing that made it over the top. And he kind of tried to sell it on his body type, you know, because you're thinking... You know, I never trust a skinny chef, you know. That was pre-PhD weight loss.

Now, where else could you go on the planet? Because I had not met Preston either, and they said, we have a guest. So I looked into you and watched some of your videos online, which are quite popular. They're very good. And if I don't surmise this, well, you can correct me. But you basically just have street conversations with people.

And the more I watched, the more I was like, well, Preston reminds me of me. Which is what I thought when I was reading that book.

All of a sudden, he dropped the processed cheese.

I'm telling you. And I thought, no, I'm out. So here was a letter.

Wanting to resolve the issue. And this is from Shelly. And she gave a few pleasantries and compliments on the podcast.