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No one's going to get that joke at all. No, not at all. I'm 38. I do feel like, is there a point where you age out of being on the front end team? It's always going to be like me and like the 18 year olds building front ends and I'm going to be 52. And it's like, what is going on in my career? Why am I working at

No one's going to get that joke at all. No, not at all. I'm 38. I do feel like, is there a point where you age out of being on the front end team? It's always going to be like me and like the 18 year olds building front ends and I'm going to be 52. And it's like, what is going on in my career? Why am I working at

it's like traditionally a junior thing to work on the front end you're right it is a very fun has a younger younger vibe to it for sure like you got to say things like it's giving and it's bad you're gonna be on the front end team you have to know what it means to say bet unironically And I don't actually. So someone get me off the front end team.

it's like traditionally a junior thing to work on the front end you're right it is a very fun has a younger younger vibe to it for sure like you got to say things like it's giving and it's bad you're gonna be on the front end team you have to know what it means to say bet unironically And I don't actually. So someone get me off the front end team.

It is funny. I was also talking to Casey, just speaking of job roles. maybe I want to be a manager someday again, or I was only for like 10 minutes and then I hated it. And I wanted to go back to individual contribution.

It is funny. I was also talking to Casey, just speaking of job roles. maybe I want to be a manager someday again, or I was only for like 10 minutes and then I hated it. And I wanted to go back to individual contribution.

Sounds awful and awesome all at the same time.

Sounds awful and awesome all at the same time.

That's what I'm getting at. It's like the individual contributor role is so tiresome. It's one thing to the next. there will always be a thing that I'm trying to deliver.

That's what I'm getting at. It's like the individual contributor role is so tiresome. It's one thing to the next. there will always be a thing that I'm trying to deliver.

See, that's what I was feeling like. If I was a manager, I would have a lighter load. That's what I assume.

See, that's what I was feeling like. If I was a manager, I would have a lighter load. That's what I assume.

At the end of the day, it kind of feels like a fake job to me. It was a fake job. Is everybody happy? Is everyone still hired here? Anyone that needs to be fired is fired? Cool, did my job. Now I'm going to chill.

At the end of the day, it kind of feels like a fake job to me. It was a fake job. Is everybody happy? Is everyone still hired here? Anyone that needs to be fired is fired? Cool, did my job. Now I'm going to chill.

Yeah. Do you ever see those Twitter threads? Not as much lately, but I feel like there was a heyday for this maybe a year or two ago. Threads from like engineering managers, very serious influencer types. They're like, here's how you get the most out of your team. And if you're just managing and you're not thinking about these things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's all fake.

Yeah. Do you ever see those Twitter threads? Not as much lately, but I feel like there was a heyday for this maybe a year or two ago. Threads from like engineering managers, very serious influencer types. They're like, here's how you get the most out of your team. And if you're just managing and you're not thinking about these things, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I think it's all fake.

I think like How do you even measure a good engineering manager? I don't think managers should exist. So it's hard for me to imagine like your job, you figured it out and you're going to teach people how to manage people so that they're happy. There's nothing a manager could do or say to me that would make me better at my job. Like I'm either good at my job or bad at my job.

I think like How do you even measure a good engineering manager? I don't think managers should exist. So it's hard for me to imagine like your job, you figured it out and you're going to teach people how to manage people so that they're happy. There's nothing a manager could do or say to me that would make me better at my job. Like I'm either good at my job or bad at my job.

And I just think that I'm probably overreacting here and getting way too aggressive. But the whole thing just smells to me. It just seems weird to like obsess about this engineering manager thing. Like it's this high calling and you can get so much out of a team. Show me one like way to measure that, that your job was so important that the team did XYZ. I just don't get it.

And I just think that I'm probably overreacting here and getting way too aggressive. But the whole thing just smells to me. It just seems weird to like obsess about this engineering manager thing. Like it's this high calling and you can get so much out of a team. Show me one like way to measure that, that your job was so important that the team did XYZ. I just don't get it.