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Professor Dave Coghill

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

We've just published actually the world's first evidence-based guidelines on treating anxiety in children and adolescents.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And when you look at those, what it will say is pretty much that medication should never be the first-line treatment unless the anxiety was extremely severe.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

But even then, the first-line treatment, we say, actually is psychoeducation.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

First line treatment is helping making sure that people understand what is anxiety, what anxiety is, how it affects people and also what it isn't.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

The second line treatment would be a psychological therapy.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

So cognitive behavioral therapy.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And I have ringing in my ears psychologists who say an only cognitive behavioral therapy with exposure.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

So you expose people to the anxiety and you help them to manage that.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And actually, that's what works.

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34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And so a lot of people get CBT, but they don't get the exposure part of it because that's a lot harder to do.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

I say to you, Sonia, I'm going to tell you how to manage this, but I'm going to make you face your anxieties.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

Oh, no, I don't want to do that.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And it's hard for me to convince you.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

But without that exposure, it's not going to work properly.

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

Medication can be added to the psychological therapy and very, very rarely for people with very severe presentations where you feel that they're not going to be able to engage in the psychological therapies.

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34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

And so sometimes you would use them first.

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34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

But generally, and that's the same, that doesn't matter whether you're neurotypical

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No Such Thing as Normal
34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

Or neurodivergent in the broadest sense.

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34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

Same argument would go.

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34. Mental health, medication and neurodivergent burnout

We know that it's much more difficult for autistic people, for example, to engage in psychological therapy.

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