Professor David Nutt

I had to have a special safe put in my office, bolted to the floor and the wall with a camera to make sure I wasn't going in there and licking my shoes.

And I said to the... Hang on, guys.

There's a pharmacy here that's got heroin and fentanyl.

Why can't I just put it there?

And they say, oh, no, no, because there's a Schedule 2, there's a Schedule 1.

I mean, if anyone's going to break in, they're not going to steal washrooms.

They're going to file a sign, but they're going to steal.

But is this unthought, you know, the perverse consequences of regulation?

Yes.

We've done two studies.

Not only have we done studies showing it treats depression that other treatments don't work for, but it works in a very different way in the brain.

It's actually another way of lifting depression.

It's an alternative.

I mean, I think that's quite important, really.

If you've got high blood pressure,

You've got a choice of five different kinds of ways of lowering your blood pressure.

And if one doesn't work, the other might.

For depression and two psychedelics, you have one.

Or ECT, which most people don't want.

Now you've got two, and they work in different parts of the brain on different receptors at different speeds.