Professor Ian Plimer

And many people who have left these climate institutes, you will hear their real view.

No, that's an economic view.

I do too, especially in Germany.

I think there's been a very significant change there.

And that's very much political, but it's also driven by the cost of energy.

And the cost of energy now is crippling.

In this country, people have to make a decision whether they have a hot bath, whether they have a hot meal, or whether they put on the heating.

Now, for a first world country, that's just impossible.

That shouldn't happen.

And people are starting to wake up.

These people also vote.

And this is why someone who might be pushing a different agenda gets attracted.

I think it was because it was politicised and the politicians jumped on the bandwagon and the so-called climate scientists could see that there was a pot of money here to keep their institute going, to have research grants, to run and go to conferences.

And so once science is politicised, that's the end result.

It's very dangerous.

Other sciences are not as politicised and certainly my science is not politicised at all.

And I think that's the end result.

Once you politicise it, once politicians are talking about climate change, you've only got to ask them a simple question.

You know, they don't know what they're talking about.

So politicising science is dangerous.