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Professor Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones

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The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But there is a very difficult bit of evidence behind that, which is the story in Herodotus that he got people from the fleet to come and look at all the dead on the battlefield, to kind of survey the battlefield. Again, this idea of coming to see it for yourself and look at all the dead that are scattered here, all these dead Spartans.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But there is a very difficult bit of evidence behind that, which is the story in Herodotus that he got people from the fleet to come and look at all the dead on the battlefield, to kind of survey the battlefield. Again, this idea of coming to see it for yourself and look at all the dead that are scattered here, all these dead Spartans.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But there is a very difficult bit of evidence behind that, which is the story in Herodotus that he got people from the fleet to come and look at all the dead on the battlefield, to kind of survey the battlefield. Again, this idea of coming to see it for yourself and look at all the dead that are scattered here, all these dead Spartans.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But in order to make that a proper story and something that would work for him in terms of motivating his troops, he hid most of his own dead. So supposedly he left 1,000 Persian dead as a credible figure and then hid the other 19,000 in a mass grave. We can imagine that this is true. This is something that Xerxes wants to do.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But in order to make that a proper story and something that would work for him in terms of motivating his troops, he hid most of his own dead. So supposedly he left 1,000 Persian dead as a credible figure and then hid the other 19,000 in a mass grave. We can imagine that this is true. This is something that Xerxes wants to do.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

But in order to make that a proper story and something that would work for him in terms of motivating his troops, he hid most of his own dead. So supposedly he left 1,000 Persian dead as a credible figure and then hid the other 19,000 in a mass grave. We can imagine that this is true. This is something that Xerxes wants to do.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Or we can imagine that Herodotus got this story from the Ionians in the fleet who came to see this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Or we can imagine that Herodotus got this story from the Ionians in the fleet who came to see this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

Or we can imagine that Herodotus got this story from the Ionians in the fleet who came to see this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

And that they only saw 1,000 Persian dead because there were only 1,000 Persian dead against 4,000 Greek dead, right?

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

And that they only saw 1,000 Persian dead because there were only 1,000 Persian dead against 4,000 Greek dead, right?

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

And that they only saw 1,000 Persian dead because there were only 1,000 Persian dead against 4,000 Greek dead, right?

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's not a wood chipper, right? It's not like you can just keep feeding things into it. I mean, if you take some losses at the front line, you're going to pull back and reassess. And especially the Persians, whose initial move in a battle is always to use missiles first and to see if they can soften up the enemy to break them easily.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's not a wood chipper, right? It's not like you can just keep feeding things into it. I mean, if you take some losses at the front line, you're going to pull back and reassess. And especially the Persians, whose initial move in a battle is always to use missiles first and to see if they can soften up the enemy to break them easily.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

It's not a wood chipper, right? It's not like you can just keep feeding things into it. I mean, if you take some losses at the front line, you're going to pull back and reassess. And especially the Persians, whose initial move in a battle is always to use missiles first and to see if they can soften up the enemy to break them easily.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

That's right. So what's happened to them? You know, what's happened to the arrows? And obviously arrows have been found in significant numbers on the battle site, the Kolonos Hill at Thermopylae, although many of them actually don't date to the Persian Wars, but they do have them on display in the museum in Athens. I mean, archers would have been a very significant asset to the Persians in this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

That's right. So what's happened to them? You know, what's happened to the arrows? And obviously arrows have been found in significant numbers on the battle site, the Kolonos Hill at Thermopylae, although many of them actually don't date to the Persian Wars, but they do have them on display in the museum in Athens. I mean, archers would have been a very significant asset to the Persians in this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

That's right. So what's happened to them? You know, what's happened to the arrows? And obviously arrows have been found in significant numbers on the battle site, the Kolonos Hill at Thermopylae, although many of them actually don't date to the Persian Wars, but they do have them on display in the museum in Athens. I mean, archers would have been a very significant asset to the Persians in this.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So we mustn't imagine them just sort of rushing into close combat to their deaths in huge droves.

The Ancients
The Persian Wars: Xerxes, Thermopylae and Salamis

So we mustn't imagine them just sort of rushing into close combat to their deaths in huge droves.