Professor Lloyd Llewellyn-Jones

And one of the main ones that immediately becomes relevant in the narrative is, what if they sail up to Hellespont and destroy this pontoon bridge that Xerxes had built in order to essentially cut off the Persian army and strand it in mainland Greece, for all the good it will do, but fundamentally saying, like, oh, we are now actually free to operate in your rear areas, which...

And one of the main ones that immediately becomes relevant in the narrative is, what if they sail up to Hellespont and destroy this pontoon bridge that Xerxes had built in order to essentially cut off the Persian army and strand it in mainland Greece, for all the good it will do, but fundamentally saying, like, oh, we are now actually free to operate in your rear areas, which...

And one of the main ones that immediately becomes relevant in the narrative is, what if they sail up to Hellespont and destroy this pontoon bridge that Xerxes had built in order to essentially cut off the Persian army and strand it in mainland Greece, for all the good it will do, but fundamentally saying, like, oh, we are now actually free to operate in your rear areas, which...

you know, animates a lot of modern strategic minds because this is very much the kind of operation that, you know, Blitzkrieg, it's the kind of operation that we would like to imagine as being disproportionately effective because it affects logistics, supply, communications, rather than confronting the strength of an army.

you know, animates a lot of modern strategic minds because this is very much the kind of operation that, you know, Blitzkrieg, it's the kind of operation that we would like to imagine as being disproportionately effective because it affects logistics, supply, communications, rather than confronting the strength of an army.

you know, animates a lot of modern strategic minds because this is very much the kind of operation that, you know, Blitzkrieg, it's the kind of operation that we would like to imagine as being disproportionately effective because it affects logistics, supply, communications, rather than confronting the strength of an army.

Well, so I mean, it could arguably be seen as the start of the Athenian Empire in the sense that at that point, there is no rival to Athens in the Aegean. So before that, obviously, Persia was, you know, an enormous rival to Athenian naval power, and they would never be able to claim that they control the Aegean Sea in general.

Well, so I mean, it could arguably be seen as the start of the Athenian Empire in the sense that at that point, there is no rival to Athens in the Aegean. So before that, obviously, Persia was, you know, an enormous rival to Athenian naval power, and they would never be able to claim that they control the Aegean Sea in general.

Well, so I mean, it could arguably be seen as the start of the Athenian Empire in the sense that at that point, there is no rival to Athens in the Aegean. So before that, obviously, Persia was, you know, an enormous rival to Athenian naval power, and they would never be able to claim that they control the Aegean Sea in general.

They just had a lot of naval interest and they were building up their naval power and they were expanding their reach across the Aegean. But certainly from that point onwards, they are increasingly able to push the advantage that they have because they just have more ships than anyone else and they have more commitment to those naval investments than anyone else.

They just had a lot of naval interest and they were building up their naval power and they were expanding their reach across the Aegean. But certainly from that point onwards, they are increasingly able to push the advantage that they have because they just have more ships than anyone else and they have more commitment to those naval investments than anyone else.

They just had a lot of naval interest and they were building up their naval power and they were expanding their reach across the Aegean. But certainly from that point onwards, they are increasingly able to push the advantage that they have because they just have more ships than anyone else and they have more commitment to those naval investments than anyone else.

The Spartans who are still in charge of the navy, even in the following campaign seasons, 479, eventually just withdraw from it. They essentially leave that leadership to the Athenians, or maybe there are different versions of this, the other allies elect the Athenians as their new leaders, essentially.

The Spartans who are still in charge of the navy, even in the following campaign seasons, 479, eventually just withdraw from it. They essentially leave that leadership to the Athenians, or maybe there are different versions of this, the other allies elect the Athenians as their new leaders, essentially.

The Spartans who are still in charge of the navy, even in the following campaign seasons, 479, eventually just withdraw from it. They essentially leave that leadership to the Athenians, or maybe there are different versions of this, the other allies elect the Athenians as their new leaders, essentially.

But fundamentally, the Athenians get to take over that alliance, which then ends up being the bedrock of the Athenian Empire. So it starts here in the sense that these are the forces that eventually form the Athenian Empire, but it takes a few steps to get the Spartans out of the way and for the Athenians to actually take over.

But fundamentally, the Athenians get to take over that alliance, which then ends up being the bedrock of the Athenian Empire. So it starts here in the sense that these are the forces that eventually form the Athenian Empire, but it takes a few steps to get the Spartans out of the way and for the Athenians to actually take over.

But fundamentally, the Athenians get to take over that alliance, which then ends up being the bedrock of the Athenian Empire. So it starts here in the sense that these are the forces that eventually form the Athenian Empire, but it takes a few steps to get the Spartans out of the way and for the Athenians to actually take over.

Ja, ich denke, dass diese Art von einfachen Narrativ in den Lehrern verschwunden ist. Es wurde so gespielt, es war wirklich so. Und ich denke, dass das besonders schmerzhaft war, auch für die Art, wie wir diese Kriege nennen, die griechisch-persischen Kriege. Ja, das ist ein bisschen eine Strecke in sich selbst, würde ich sagen.

Ja, ich denke, dass diese Art von einfachen Narrativ in den Lehrern verschwunden ist. Es wurde so gespielt, es war wirklich so. Und ich denke, dass das besonders schmerzhaft war, auch für die Art, wie wir diese Kriege nennen, die griechisch-persischen Kriege. Ja, das ist ein bisschen eine Strecke in sich selbst, würde ich sagen.