Professor Paul Mullen

So all of that now would ring lots of bells.

At the time, it didn't ring any.

We didn't know about these things.

It's about the psychology of those who go out into the streets, armed with guns usually, and kill as many people as they can, expecting to die among their victims.

These people are full of anger and resentment.

Never at any stage name them.

It matters because of the next one down the line.

Who's watching what you're doing?

He's seeing yet another mass killer become world famous.

Hamok was a Malay term.

When they first Portuguese contact with Malaya, one of the things they noticed was that there was a pattern of behavior which was utterly foreign at that time to Europeans.

of young men going out into public places, usually carrying a bladed weapon, sometimes a large club, and killing people at random.

And they'd go on killing people until they themselves were cut down.

There was a lot of interest in this when Captain Cook went through that area.

He also noted that they were very common and quite extraordinary, at least to the European mind.

And it seemed that it was a form of suicide.

Well, in fact, it was a form of suicide.

Why did they choose this form of suicide?

Well, then they were killed rather than having to kill themselves, which was, of course, taboo for a Muslim nation.

But the other thing is that the people who went in for this kind of suicide thought it would restore their prestige.