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Professor Polly Lowe

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The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

all the money, but the amount that goes to the goddess Athena.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And they set those up, they inscribed them on stone, they set them up on the Acropolis.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And the first one that we have, which says, usefully, this is the first one, dates to 454 BCE.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So that's why we come up with that date.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Very powerful, I think is the answer.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

I think in spite of the setback in Egypt, and maybe one could say, well, that ultimately ends up helping the Athenians because it focuses their mind a little bit about where they should focus their energies.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So Egypt is a disaster, but in other theatres, the Athenians are doing quite well.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

The other thing that has happened in the background, although not really in the background, is that conflict has erupted with Sparta.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

and with Sparta's allies.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So towards the end of the 460s, Athens and Sparta had been on a sort of position of detente since the end of the Persian Wars, but that breaks down at the end of the 460s.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And a conflict breaks out, which confusingly was sometimes called the First Peloponnesian War, not to be confused with the famous

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Peloponnesian war between Athens and Sparta and some allies of Sparta, particularly Thebes, which is Athens' most powerful northern neighbour.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Again, there are ebbs and flows and ultimately Athens isn't successful in that conflict.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

But along the way, Athens does win some successes, including briefly conquering enough of the region around Thebes, Boeotia, so that's the region immediately to the north of Athens, and incorporating that into the Athenian Empire.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So this could have been, if the Athenians had managed to hold on to it longer, that could have been very significant because that's a big land possession.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

They've got this very powerful sea-based naval maritime empire.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Then, for a moment, it looks like they can add on this really significant portion of territory to their north.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

The empire is looking quite good at moments in the late 450s and 440s, but then they don't manage to hold on to that land part of their empire.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Yes, I think exactly that.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Again, we don't have...