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Professor Polly Lowe

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The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

We could, if we were cynical, as I often am, question what the Athenians' motivations are.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Are they actually really very bothered about the Persians?

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Or is this...

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

a way for the Athenians to cement their own power.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Aeon, as I've just mentioned, is strategically extremely important, especially if you want to head further east.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

If you want to go down into the Black Sea, which is a very important lucrative grain route, that's a good place to have a foothold.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And the Athenians, they're liberating, in scare quotes, Greek cities from the Persian Empire, but then the Athenians become

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

the people who are in charge of those cities.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So they are doing what they've said.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

They're fighting the Persians, but it's not wholly altruistic, I would suggest.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Yes, exactly that.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

And if we look back to going even further back before the Persian invasions, there's signs that already, even in the 6th century, the Athenians were aware of the potential to expand their power out into the east.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So this isn't a wholly new idea that they've had.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Yes, almost certainly.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Again, it's very hard to pin down from Thucydides' account.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

What he does tell us is about cities who decide that they would quite like to leave and aren't allowed to leave.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So two really important cases that Thucydides mentions.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

One is the island of Thassos up in the north.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

So quite close to Aeon and in that strategically very important region in terms of controlling trade routes, controlling access to the valuable resources on the mainland up there.

The Ancients
The Delian League: Ancient NATO?

Thassos tries to leave and the Athenians by force prevent it from doing so and forcibly reincorporate it.