Professor Prash Sanders

then the person's not going to do too well in a compromised, in a heart failure situation.

So we need to get the heart rate down.

But the reality is in most people, we can do this with medications.

If we cannot do it with medications, then we ought to be thinking about, is this the person who's going to benefit from avianoid ablation?

In this study, we improved the amount of pacing, but we didn't improve any of the outcomes.

Absolutely.

Look, 2% of the population have heart failure and then 2% of the population have atrial fibrillation.

This is a big deal and a very common scenario that lots of the listeners will be exposed to.

That's exactly right.

So the listeners should know if your cardiologist feels they can get you back to normal rhythm by treating atrial fibrillation, they should go ahead because there's good data to suggest that it improves heart failure outcomes and also the risk of dying.