Professor Sarah Berry

But for the reasons you talked about, it needs to then be looked at in the context of your overall health.

And then we talk about what could you actually do.

And I think, interestingly, there was this really big alignment, Sanjay, between you and Sarah.

And of course, Sarah is going to focus on nutrition as a nutrition scientist.

But actually, you said diet is the number one thing that you think is affecting high blood pressure, which is extraordinary.

That the overall healthy diet for blood pressure is the same as the overall diet for everything else.

But there are some interesting specific things, Sarah.

And what I caught was

particularly increasing your potassium intake.

And that means more fruits and vegetables.

And you had some particular examples.

I think I got bananas, figs, apricots, green leafy vegetables like spinach.

These are particularly high in potassium.

Reducing salt is good, but actually the salt isn't where I guess I would think it is, which is adding lots of salt to the table.

This is mainly in heavily processed food.

So it's sort of hiding in a lot of these meals and sort of ready meals and things like that.

So actually, if you can cut back on that...

I can still add salt to the eggs that I make at home without feeling so bad about it.

And finally, more fiber supports the microbiome, hopefully helps to give you those good bugs that you want to have fighting the blood pressure.

But then it's not only about diet.