Professor Sarah Berry

So it's sort of hiding in a lot of these meals and sort of ready meals and things like that.

So actually, if you can cut back on that...

I can still add salt to the eggs that I make at home without feeling so bad about it.

And finally, more fiber supports the microbiome, hopefully helps to give you those good bugs that you want to have fighting the blood pressure.

But then it's not only about diet.

We talked about stress a lot, but also that it's hard to adjust for.

So these other things like sleep and exercise that we know are so important for many other aspects of our health, like very strong data to support the fact that it can reduce our blood pressure.

And not only will we reduce our blood pressure at the end of this, Sanjay, but we're all going to feel better, which sounds a great way to wrap up.

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I've got loads of thoughts.