Professor Steve Wessling

other agencies, the EU, are seeing across the world.

The minister did announce an increase in the MRFF funding over the next four years, taking... But nothing like what he could spend.

That is true, but it will end up being about $2 billion a year by 2030.

So that is significant.

But I would argue that for a country to be innovative, for a country to increase its productivity, the more it spends on research, all sorts of research, but certainly in my case, health and medical research, the better the health of the country is going to be, the more productive our health system is going to be.

Well, Norman, I think you know where my decision would lie.

Absolutely, the more money we could have to give out for research, the better the health of the country.

Absolutely, no doubt.

Steve, thank you for joining us.

Thanks, Norman.