Pádraig O'Tuama

That's dedication from the most recent book.

I was thinking about it as I read it and thinking about how it's truth and love is calling out genocide and it's filled with yearning and pathos as well.

And the teleological two imagines a future even while...

declaiming and condemning um the the present that's being annihilated i wonder if you could talk about the all of the you use the word psychosis earlier on this poem feels like an elegant demonstration of what on earth can you say in the midst of all of this using form dedication as well

Yeah.

i think my last question is is something that is in this poem also um but it is the way within which you um continue to speak of love um when we were preparing earlier on and talking you spoke about you know the seeming audacity of a palestinian american man speaking of eros and in this poem you you celebrate and dedicate to those who

met each other for sex during times of terror.

I wonder if you could speak of the importance of Eros at the heart of your work.

You're sounding very much like a medic now.

Well, Fatih Judah, I know everyone here is delighted to have been present for your reading and your conversation tonight.

With the Jackson family and the staff and board of poets and writers, we all join in congratulating you on receiving the 2024 Jackson Prize for Poetry.

Thank you very much.

Fadi Judah is the author of six collections of poems and has translated several collections of poetry from Arabic.

He is the editor and co-founder of the Etel Adnan Poetry Prize, and his most recent collection, Ellipsis, was published in 2024 by Milkweed Editions.

This interview was recorded on the occasion of him receiving the 2024 Jackson Poetry Prize.

Deep thanks to the Jackson family and everyone at Poets and Writers for making this conversation possible.

Poetry Unbound is Andrea Prevost, Carla Zanoni, Daryl Chen, Sparrow Murray, Chris Heagle, Bill Siegmund, and me, Padraig O'Toole.

Our music is composed and provided by Gautam Srikrishan and Blue Dot Sessions.

These episodes were made in New York City on unceded Lenape land.

Special thanks to Will Salwen, Adam Morrell, and Sam Girardi at Digital Island Studios in Manhattan.