Róisín Ingle

But, you know, it's interesting that you wonder what it would take for people to stay away from that event, you know, because there was a bit of this oligarchy, this tech kind of takeover of something that was kind of not that way.

So it's interesting.

I wonder, will Vogue stick to its guns and have them again or will they not?

But it didn't make many people stay away.

There was some weird ones as well on display.

But what else have you been watching culturally?

Have you got any good tips for us?

No, I haven't been watching Beef.

OK, no, none of our listeners have dodgy boxes.

Absolutely not.

OK, brilliant.

Well, Jennifer O'Connell, lovely to have you back and we'll see you soon.

Thanks, Roisin.

Now, Jan Burton, as many of you know, is a 50-year-old Dublin woman and fashion stylist who became an accidental poet during the pandemic.

She writes with warmth and humour about life, love, lipstick, and specifically about middle age and the joy and challenges of that stage of a woman's life.

Her two books, What Day Is It?

and Everybody Is A Poem, became bestsellers.

But she was introduced to an even bigger audience recently when she appeared as a guest on Tommy Tiernan's show.

Now, before Tommy had her in his hot seat, before he discovered her, she had long been a regular guest on this podcast and fresh from a tour of the UK with Henry Normal.

She came in to talk to us about the latest goings on in her life, including caring for her father, life on the road and the joy of intergenerational friendships.