Raanan Hershberg

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

You have to, yeah. Once he puts it on a special, then you can judge it. Once he decides. But until then, yeah, work on it. Imagine if my Sid's joke was filmed. I'd probably get some notoriety back then.

Yeah, but no one knows about it except for me bringing it up right now.

You're working shit out. You're stumbling. You're bombing. You don't want people to see that part.

Yeah, for sure.

It's interesting. To me, it's all a mystery how it develops. I think about it. I listen to tapes. But when you just keep doing it, it just naturally edits itself. It's an interesting mystery where it naturally forms. Right.

Yes. Yes. And listen to it all.

Yeah. That's the death. One of the things Louis taught me, or not taught me, something I understood, but he really articulated, is, like, the enemy of comedy is roteness. Figuring out that you, once you think you can say it a certain way where it gets a laugh, it's dead. Like, if you're relying on to just say it that way to get a laugh. Right, right, right.

And he made it clear, like, you really, and he shows it. You really got to think about the emotion behind it, which you forget immediately after a while. Yeah. I fall into this trap all the time where I figure out a way to say a joke and it gets a laugh. And I think the minute you're 100% sure it's going to work, that's when it starts dying. Right.

Yeah, to me it's like instead of... thinking of like, oh, I'm saying something now that will get a laugh. Just try to think of the anger or the sadness or whatever.

That's why Bill Burr is so great because it's like, he doesn't look like he's trying to get people to laugh. Right, right, right. He just looks really angry. Yeah. And that's funny. He is.

And that's what's hilarious, just kind of like the fact he's so great at... Keeping that anger. I don't know if it's an act. I mean, keeping that anger alive through all these shows. It's not an act. It's not an act.

He knows me. No, he's amazing. Yeah, I just think his ability to just always be himself on stage, which I think that's the comedy I love the most.

Yeah. No, that's incredible.

Right, right. Really? Really? And having to care about it. I feel like so many times I'll do a bit, and it's not working, and then I realize, I don't give a shit about the thing I'm saying. If it's important to me, it'll be important to the audience.

I know there's something.

You don't care. You don't care, and you know they work. There's no mystery.

With the hour, it works well.

Yeah. That's a great thing to do. You have to. That's the hardest part, forgetting everything.