Rachel Abrams

Have you heard examples already of, I'm just making this up, researchers who are, say, declining to go to Harvard because they're worried about their funding getting cut?

Given the existential threats that the funding cuts could pose to Harvard, are they considering at all trying to reach some kind of deal with the administration despite the language that they put out about how they're going to fight?

Given the existential threats that the funding cuts could pose to Harvard, are they considering at all trying to reach some kind of deal with the administration despite the language that they put out about how they're going to fight?

Huh. Why?

Huh. Why?

You mean like one side thought they were getting something, but then it turned out they were getting something different?

You mean like one side thought they were getting something, but then it turned out they were getting something different?

Right. Of course, there was quite notably the resignation of Claudine Gay, the first female Black president of Harvard, who resigned after only six months in the wake of plagiarism allegations and sort of disastrous congressional testimony over anti-Semitism.

Right. Of course, there was quite notably the resignation of Claudine Gay, the first female Black president of Harvard, who resigned after only six months in the wake of plagiarism allegations and sort of disastrous congressional testimony over anti-Semitism.

I mean, it sounds like they're basically kind of stuck.

I mean, it sounds like they're basically kind of stuck.

And they tend to pay full price.

And they tend to pay full price.

It also sort of feels like up until now, the cuts have been aimed at the funding, but cutting off visas is really striking at the fabric of the student body and the identity of the school and the diversity of the school, things that go beyond just the tuition money that Harvard gets.

It also sort of feels like up until now, the cuts have been aimed at the funding, but cutting off visas is really striking at the fabric of the student body and the identity of the school and the diversity of the school, things that go beyond just the tuition money that Harvard gets.

What's the takeaway here? You mentioned earlier that Harvard is one of the institutions that is arguably one of the best suited and most well-resourced to fight a broadside from the administration. And so I just sort of wonder, especially for you who's thinking about the retribution beat, for people that are looking at this fight, what is the takeaway for them?

What's the takeaway here? You mentioned earlier that Harvard is one of the institutions that is arguably one of the best suited and most well-resourced to fight a broadside from the administration. And so I just sort of wonder, especially for you who's thinking about the retribution beat, for people that are looking at this fight, what is the takeaway for them?

Mike, thank you so much.

Mike, thank you so much.

We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Wednesday evening that the Trump administration would seek to revoke visas of Chinese students, including those with ties to the Chinese Communist Party or studying in what he called critical fields.