Rachel Abrams

So Adam, we have had you on the show before talking about whether the various showdowns between the administration and courts are leading toward a constitutional crisis.

And it feels like a distinction that has been made before is that there's a difference between the administration making a legal argument, no matter how bad legal scholars say it is, and the administration openly flouting a court and saying, we're not going to listen to you. And I just sort of wonder, like, where this case sits within that distinction.

And it feels like a distinction that has been made before is that there's a difference between the administration making a legal argument, no matter how bad legal scholars say it is, and the administration openly flouting a court and saying, we're not going to listen to you. And I just sort of wonder, like, where this case sits within that distinction.

Adam, I think that probably there are a lot of people out there that might say something along the lines of, this man was in the country illegally. There's a reason to think that he's a gang member. You know, trust the president. Maybe there are some mistakes along the way. But by and large, why are you guys getting all worked up about this? We send him back to where he belongs.

Adam, I think that probably there are a lot of people out there that might say something along the lines of, this man was in the country illegally. There's a reason to think that he's a gang member. You know, trust the president. Maybe there are some mistakes along the way. But by and large, why are you guys getting all worked up about this? We send him back to where he belongs.

What would you say to those people that might think that?

What would you say to those people that might think that?

So basically, if they can do this, what else can they do?

So basically, if they can do this, what else can they do?

Adam, thank you very much.

Adam, thank you very much.

On Tuesday, the district court judge has scheduled a hearing to discuss what the administration must do to try and bring Kilmar Abrego-Garcia home. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. In a sharply worded letter on Monday, the president of Harvard rejected demands from the Trump administration that he said would diminish the power of students and faculty.

On Tuesday, the district court judge has scheduled a hearing to discuss what the administration must do to try and bring Kilmar Abrego-Garcia home. We'll be right back. Here's what else you need to know today. In a sharply worded letter on Monday, the president of Harvard rejected demands from the Trump administration that he said would diminish the power of students and faculty.

The move set up a showdown between the school and the government, and the reaction from the Trump administration was swift, with officials immediately freezing more than $2 billion in funding to the university.

The move set up a showdown between the school and the government, and the reaction from the Trump administration was swift, with officials immediately freezing more than $2 billion in funding to the university.

And the White House is planning to ask Congress to claw back more than a billion dollars slated for public broadcasting, a move that could ultimately eliminate almost all federal support for NPR and PBS.

And the White House is planning to ask Congress to claw back more than a billion dollars slated for public broadcasting, a move that could ultimately eliminate almost all federal support for NPR and PBS.

While government money accounts for a small part of the broadcaster's budgets, losing it could be devastating for local public radio stations, which rely on the money to finance their newsrooms and pay for programming. Today's episode was produced by Sydney Harper, Mooj Sethi, and Rob Zipko. It was edited by Lexi Diao.

While government money accounts for a small part of the broadcaster's budgets, losing it could be devastating for local public radio stations, which rely on the money to finance their newsrooms and pay for programming. Today's episode was produced by Sydney Harper, Mooj Sethi, and Rob Zipko. It was edited by Lexi Diao.

It contains original music by Marianne Lozano, Diane Wong, Alicia Beitube, and Pat McCusker, and was engineered by Chris Wood. Our theme music is by Jim Brunberg and Ben Landsberg of Wonderly. That's it for The Daily. I'm Rachel Abrams. See you tomorrow.