Rachel Abrams

We have talked on the show before about how aviation generally, the system is under a lot of pressure in this country. But what's happening with Newark feels like an even more of an escalation from the problems that we've discussed before. And I think a lot of people are wondering what on earth is going on and is it actually less safe to fly right now? Yeah.

So talk a little bit about that system failure more. Like, what exactly happened?

So talk a little bit about that system failure more. Like, what exactly happened?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I'm waiting.

I'm waiting.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah, understandably. I mean, this sounds like the scariest thing that could possibly happen to you in your entire career.

Yeah, understandably. I mean, this sounds like the scariest thing that could possibly happen to you in your entire career.

Obviously, a minute and a half does not sound like a long period of time, but can you just explain to us, like, why that period of time could even matter?

Obviously, a minute and a half does not sound like a long period of time, but can you just explain to us, like, why that period of time could even matter?

So Kate, after the systems come back online, the radars, the scopes, what kind of effect does this have on Newark?

So Kate, after the systems come back online, the radars, the scopes, what kind of effect does this have on Newark?

Okay, so let's talk about exactly what went wrong here. Help me understand how this all happened.

Okay, so let's talk about exactly what went wrong here. Help me understand how this all happened.

So even if copper wire didn't literally get fried here, the point that I think you're making is that this technology is old and it's prone to breaking down.

So even if copper wire didn't literally get fried here, the point that I think you're making is that this technology is old and it's prone to breaking down.

Sorry, and just explain what is a data feed exactly? Like, what are we talking about?