Rachel Abrams

Lisa, I'm so curious how these huge changes that Jean is going through, both physically and emotionally, are affecting her relationship with Javier.

It sounds like the lifestyle stuff led to a lot of tension.

Why haven't they had sex?

Like, was that just another appetite that the drugs reduced?

God, I can totally see why making an intense physical and emotional change could lead somebody like Jean to need to, if nothing else, take a break from having sex.

But I can imagine if you are the person's partner, that suddenly finding out that like the person that you shared a really active, pleasing sex life with doesn't want it or doesn't like it, I can imagine that that's totally devastating.

Did she tell him that that's how she felt?

Mm-hmm.

And what does that mean in the context of, like, not having sex when you want sex?

It sounds like the drugs kind of unearthed something.

They unearthed some kind of dynamic in their sex life that Jean had only been maybe vaguely aware of, but certainly had not been in a position to act on before she felt differently about herself.

I know this is just one couple and one anecdote, but I am really curious if you had any big takeaways for how these drugs could affect relationships.

I believe, Lisa, what you are describing is flexibility in relationships.

Lisa, thank you so much.

It's such a pleasure to talk to you.

I really enjoyed it, too.

Thank you, Rachel.

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